Is this just wasting chips most of the time calling down on this board? Of course I was right this time but I want to get beyond results-oriented thinking.

We are about 15 left with 7 paid, so I shouldn't yet be considering ICM, right?

PokerStars Hand #116670532043: Tournament #915012256, $0.91+$0.09 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200) - 2014/05/25 21:46:24 CET [2014/05/25 15:46:24 ET]
Table '915012256 2' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: (555 in chips)
Seat 2: (3808 in chips)
Seat 3: (3384 in chips)
Seat 5: (2650 in chips)
Seat 6: CO Hero (4650 in chips)
Seat 7: (1415 in chips)
Seat 8: SB Villain (4761 in chips)
Seat 9: (2162 in chips)
Villain: posts small blind 100
BB: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [As Ks]
4 folds
Hero: raises 300 to 500
1 fold
Villain: calls 400
1 fold
*** FLOP *** [2s Td 6h]
Villain: bets 720
Hero: calls 720
*** TURN *** [2s Td 6h] [6c]
Villain: bets 1029
Hero: calls 1029
*** RIVER *** [2s Td 6h 6c] [7s]
Villain: checks
Hero: checks
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Villain: shows [Qc Kc] (a pair of Sixes)
Hero: shows [As Ks] (a pair of Sixes - Ace kicker)
Hero collected 4698 from pot

just shove pre

Hi, I've just started to play $2.50 Turbo 180s recently. I played 180s and MTTs semi-professionally two years but have been largely not playing online poker in the last 18-24 months.

What is the best resource to help me brush up on push-fold-call ranges?

I know google/search will yield some results, but with how fast the game moves these days, I want to be sure whatever I study isn't outdated. Any help is much appreciated.

Also, if there's any other must-read up-to-date info on the 180s, please let me know.

Thanks.

HI , I have one question about the 1-table sng at micro , are those profitable?

Hi,

I don't really know how to use any ICM software yet and am wondering if the following play is correct.
SNG wizard says it's a fold but i dont know how to adjust the ranges and what ranges to change.

^^^^ this is fine.

If you use sngwiz without knowing what ranges your opponents have, you better shouldn't use it at all. If you put in wrong numbers to begin with it will likely give you completly wrong results, just like any other calculator.

That's what i figured. Any guides which show me how i can try to decide what ranges people open/call with. Can i just use PFR stat for open range? And how do i make up a calling range from there?

yes, pfr can give you a clue, especially if you look up positional pfr. But make sure you have enough sample and consider that most players change their strategy if the stacks get shallow, etc. The more you play the more experience you will get recognizing different playertypes and what kind of ranges they have in certain spots.

Calling ranges are harder to guess, but after time playing the same opponents and taking notes you should have a feel for it. Just input different calling %s and use the graphs if you are unsure.

2.5$ 180. F2Ts.

Haven't seen V out of line with the big stack. I am about 9/16.

Nh?

Call 10bbs with antes, aj is too big to fold.

How much tougher have 180s become since the implementation of Spin and Gos? Obv they will be beatable but do people expect an ROI hit?

to lazy to search....

pokertrackers c net adjusted legit for 18 mans? How much emphasis can i put into this?

Roughly how long do 90-180-360 man sng turbos take to run start to finish roughly ?

180s take from 1hour 40 minutes to 2hours from start to finish. On average, a tight player lasts 45 minutes.






Checkup hands.

Worried about each of the streets, except the river, which is definitely fine.

I fail to see the correlation.Why would they become any tougher?

All hands are pre-FT in $2.50 180-mans unless stated differently.

Poker Stars $2.28+$0.22 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t600/t1200 Blinds + t125 - 9 players
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BTN: t8137 M = 2.78
Hero (SB): t23659 M = 8.09
BB: t28087 M = 9.60
UTG: t18667 M = 6.38
UTG+1: t17737 M = 6.06
UTG+2: t10287 M = 3.52
MP1: t4562 M = 1.56
MP2: t7383 M = 2.52
CO: t18696 M = 6.39

Pre Flop: (t2925) Hero is SB with Q J
2 folds, UTG+2 raises to t10162 all in, MP1 calls t4437 all in, MP2 calls t7258 all in, 2 folds, Hero calls t9562


Poker Stars $2.28+$0.22 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t800/t1600 Blinds + t150 - 7 players
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MP: t29898 M = 8.67
Hero (CO): t13297 M = 3.85
BTN: t7630 M = 2.21
SB: t9241 M = 2.68
BB: t8453 M = 2.45
UTG: t21583 M = 6.26
UTG+1: t18176 M = 5.27

Pre Flop: (t3450) Hero is CO with 5 Q
3 folds


V has been quite laggy, I've been opening often last orbit.

Poker Stars $2.28+$0.22 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t125/t250 Blinds + t25 - 8 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

MP2: t1270 M = 2.21
CO: t2915 M = 5.07
BTN: t4935 M = 8.58
SB: t1985 M = 3.45
BB: t4753 M = 8.27
UTG: t2531 M = 4.40
UTG+1: t6133 M = 10.67
Hero (MP1): t6485 M = 11.28

Pre Flop: (t575) Hero is MP1 with J K
2 folds, Hero raises to t500, 1 fold, CO raises to t2890 all in, 4 folds


Final table

Poker Stars $2.28+$0.22 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t2000/t4000 Blinds + t400 - 4 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BB: t167362 M = 22.02
Hero (CO): t26759 M = 3.52
BTN: t14233 M = 1.87
SB: t61646 M = 8.11

Pre Flop: (t7600) Hero is CO with 9 2
Hero raises to t26359 all in, 3 folds

Same final table

Poker Stars $2.28+$0.22 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t2000/t4000 Blinds + t400 - 4 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

SB: t162962 M = 21.44
Hero (BB): t33959 M = 4.47
CO: t13833 M = 1.82
BTN: t59246 M = 7.80

Pre Flop: (t7600) Hero is BB with 9 9
CO raises to t13433 all in, 1 fold, SB raises to t162562 all in, 1 fold

Poker Stars $2.28+$0.22 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t300/t600 Blinds + t50 - 8 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

UTG: t5863 M = 4.51
UTG+1: t35471 M = 27.29
MP1: t5423 M = 4.17
MP2: t4316 M = 3.32
CO: t3987 M = 3.07
BTN: t28101 M = 21.62
Hero (SB): t6035 M = 4.64
BB: t9050 M = 6.96

Pre Flop: (t1300) Hero is SB with K T
3 folds, MP2 raises to t4266 all in, 4 folds

Final tble. Very active V.

Poker Stars $2.28+$0.22 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t1500/t3000 Blinds + t300 - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

CO: t16702 M = 2.65
BTN: t62864 M = 9.98
Hero (SB): t47354 M = 7.52
BB: t28322 M = 4.50
UTG: t31612 M = 5.02
MP: t83146 M = 13.20

Pre Flop: (t6300) Hero is SB with K Q
1 fold, MP raises to t6000, 3 folds, BB calls t3000

Flop: (t15300) K 6 4 (2 players)
BB bets t3000, MP raises to t9000, BB folds


Same FT. Same type of V.

Poker Stars $2.28+$0.22 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t1500/t3000 Blinds + t300 - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BB: t17452 M = 2.77
UTG: t72764 M = 11.55
Hero (MP): t44954 M = 7.14
CO: t12422 M = 1.97
BTN: t26212 M = 4.16
SB: t96196 M = 15.27

Pre Flop: (t6300) Hero is MP with Q K
UTG raises to t6000, Hero calls t6000, 4 folds

Flop: (t18300) 5 6 J (2 players)
UTG bets t6805, Hero folds


Will using SNGWizard allow me to figure out most of these spots on my own?

Fold QJs.
Shove 5qo.
openshove JKo.
Well played 92s Don't worry that much about ICM in this situation, since you win as much money from increasing your 2nd place finishes as you do by sacrificing your 3rd place finishes. ICM could make this a fold if both BB and SB had 250K+.
99Same deal here, call.
fold KT, remember his position tightens his range.
KQo reshove and lick your lips in anticipacion for those 15300 chips .
KQo Reshove.

You should aim to play less flops by shoving more often. Also, you must think wether you would fold or call a reshove from each of your opponents before minraising. If you can't do this, I suggest you openshove under M 10, this is better and easier.

Thanks! I do always have a plan, but do start second guessing it in some spots (like the KJ hand). Plan whas to r/f vs this V but did so very reluctantly bcause of his stats. Whondering if calling could be okay.

More about the KJo hand:

So I just got ICMizer and having my first go at something like this. Not even sure if other people can actually correctly see what I'm sharing..

Did I do this okay? I just noticed I clicked the 'ICM EV' option instead of the cEV one. Using the cEV model calling with KJo becomes correct, right..?!

http://www.icmpoker.com/icmizer/#YYjw

And about the KQ hands:

How much of an (ICM)disaster is it if we get called and lose, with people still in with short (<5bb) stacks? I think I'm overestimating this alot. Would it be more of an issue at f.e. the WSOP final table, because of the more significant payjumps?

Yep, I believe you did fine, always check what the program is using as villain's range. In this case the program is assuming villain is shoving a bit too wide compared to what actual villains (who make mistakes) do. If this is the case, you should be even tighter than what the program suggests, you can probably modify the range yourself.
I don't really know how big of a disaster, but you should first consider how much the cEV is. In this case it's a whole lot. If he folds you win one third of your stack, and if he calls you have close to 50% equity anyway. Considering he is folding more than 50% of the time, you can see how this is way above the EV line, the ICM effect must be way too strong to let this pass.
So, considering the huge benefits of shoving, getting busted fewer than 25% of the time is not a disaster at all.

Thats the range I manually put in. What do you feel is a more realistic range?

55+,A9s+,ATo+,KJs+

Although shoving hands like JTs is extremely profitable, you'll notice villains don't often do this.

Assuming that range this call would be a losing call indeed. If he's shoving as wide as I expected him to ingame this is still barely a break-even call.