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05-16-2012, 04:16 PM
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#316
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Dec 2008
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Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***
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Originally Posted by bibiscus
If he is doing that, I guess he sucks a ton.
I would lean towards not getting into 55/45 of 52/48 situations and fold some hands who could be good according to pokerstove. would search for some 60/40 type of edge so that's 35% of hands
Board:
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 60.037% 58.72% 01.32% 593661935580 13326200734.00 { 22+, A2s+, K3s+, Q6s+, J7s+, T7s+, 97s+, 87s, A4o+, K8o+, Q9o+, J9o+, T9o }
Hand 1: 39.963% 38.65% 01.32% 390715559752 13326200734.00 { random }
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you're doing it wrong.
just stove each weak hand against a random hand, not the whole range. i.e. 87s only has 48% vs a random hand, so you wouldn't call with that would you?
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05-16-2012, 05:59 PM
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#317
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old hand
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: playing with kids
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Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***
yeah lol wtf was I doing. hangover.........
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05-16-2012, 06:01 PM
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#318
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old hand
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: fish pond
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Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***
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05-17-2012, 06:17 AM
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#319
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old hand
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: fish pond
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Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***
I stoved the range for at least 59.xxx%+ and that's what I got.
If we're looking for 60% spots against a random shoving monkey, the range looks like this:
{55+, K9s+, KTo+, A8o+, A5s+, QTs+}
The whole range is 65% against a random shoving hand.
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05-22-2012, 09:23 AM
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#320
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stranger
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 9
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Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***
Does any1 have a clue of the formula for SNG wizard pushing ranges?
BvB it's simple:
EV = dead_money * FE + (1-FE) [ (2*smallest_stack + dead_money) * equity_win (pokerstove) - (smallest_stack) * equity_lose(pokerstove) ]
But if we are in BU, I simple don't get it. I think general EV = EV_SB + EV_BB + EV_SB&BB (both in the pot at the same time).
Thanks.
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05-27-2012, 04:06 AM
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stranger
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 12
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Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***
Poker Stars, $3.19 Buy-in (2,000/4,000 blinds, 400 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12991872
BTN: 56,243 (14.1 bb)
SB: 10,867 (2.7 bb)
Hero (BB): 71,135 (17.8 bb)
UTG+2: 30,155 (7.5 bb)
MP1: 41,056 (10.3 bb)
MP2: 16,893 (4.2 bb)
MP3: 24,086 (6 bb)
CO: 10,712 (2.7 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BB with 7  8 
2 folds, MP2 raises to 16,493 and is all-in, 3 folds, SB calls 8,467 and is all-in, Hero folds
Flop: (28,134) Q  7  2 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: (28,134) 4 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: (28,134) T (2 players, 2 are all-in)
is this a call? what range we should be calling?
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05-28-2012, 03:12 AM
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#322
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stranger
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 12
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Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***
i have 10bbs (antes are in) w/ pocket 77 and unknown ships hes 10bb from MP. call or fold?
i have 3bbs from CO w/ lets say A2s, 89s, K9o and MP raises. im going in?
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06-01-2012, 08:37 AM
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#323
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: May 2012
Location: transcendental meta
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Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***
Yes for both.
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06-06-2012, 05:34 PM
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#324
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Aug 2008
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Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***
Villain in BB is a good aggressive reg. This is like 20 left in a $3r 180. What do you guys prefer here?
[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $3.19 Buy-in (1,000/2,000 blinds, 200 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.
CO: 13,902 (7 bb)
BTN: 18,758 (9.4 bb)
Hero (SB): 41,951 (21 bb)
BB: 45,525 (22.8 bb)
UTG+2: 15,133 (7.6 bb)
MP1: 15,704 (7.9 bb)
MP2: 18,998 (9.5 bb)
MP3: 33,184 (16.6 bb)
Preflop: Hero is SB with A  7 
6 folds, Hero
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06-07-2012, 09:52 PM
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#325
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old hand
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,363
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Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***
depends how you think he perceives your game both options are fine depending on that
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06-08-2012, 10:24 AM
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#326
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Aug 2008
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Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nofear47
depends how you think he perceives your game both options are fine depending on that
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I've mostly played with him in 8s and 15s iirc, so not that much history 20+ bbs deep. I r/f'd once to him earlier and shoved like 18bbs after that.
Think A7o is pretty borderline, not that awesome to induce with, but too strong to not get it in against this villain. Probably a jam is better if I'm not comfortable with r/c.
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06-08-2012, 01:42 PM
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#327
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old hand
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 1,363
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Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***
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Originally Posted by streetwalkincheeta
I've mostly played with him in 8s and 15s iirc, so not that much history 20+ bbs deep. I r/f'd once to him earlier and shoved like 18bbs after that.
Think A7o is pretty borderline, not that awesome to induce with, but too strong to not get it in against this villain. Probably a jam is better if I'm not comfortable with r/c.
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agree with all of this
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06-14-2012, 02:08 AM
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#328
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journeyman
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 239
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Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***
btw what happened to OMG its clay aiken?
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06-20-2012, 09:42 AM
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#329
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journeyman
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 238
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Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***
BTN arrived one hand earlier and called an all-in with 8T on a T34 flop to bust his opponent who had AK and raised PRF UTG+2.
I have no reading whatsoever.
Is folding best considering we are at 15/30 ?
Poker Stars, $0.91 Buy-in (15/30 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 7 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13284002
SB: 3,476 (115.9 bb)
Hero (BB): 2,875 (95.8 bb)
MP1: 1,570 (52.3 bb)
MP2: 3,060 (102 bb)
MP3: 215 (7.2 bb)
CO: 1,689 (56.3 bb)
BTN: 1,200 (40 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BB with Q  A 
3 folds, CO raises to 90, BTN raises to 1,200 and is all-in, Hero ?
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06-20-2012, 10:35 AM
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#330
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journeyman
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Quebec
Posts: 294
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Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***
yes fold
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