*** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***

[dmindoh]

I'm looking for a chart/program to train/check up on push ranges. I read somewhere that I can combine pokerstove with some kind of calculator to do it, but I can't find that post.
I'm playing mainly 45man so I suppose I would need something for both chip ev and ICM.

Here's an example of a hand I would want to check up on. I'm not looking for analysis on this particular hand, but for a way that I can figure it out myself. Thanks in advance!

Poker Stars, $3.19 Buy-in (200/400 blinds, 25 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10344982

BB: 2,075 (5.2 bb)
UTG: 7,900 (19.8 bb)
Hero (MP): 6,755 (16.9 bb)
CO: 4,250 (10.6 bb)
BTN: 2,675 (6.7 bb)
SB: 2,908 (7.3 bb)

Preflop: (150) Hero is MP with K 9
UTG folds, Hero raises to 6,730 and is all-in, CO folds, BTN calls 2,650 and is all-in, 2 folds

Flop: (6,050) T K Q (2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: (6,050) T (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: (6,050) A (2 players, 2 are all-in)

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[SkinnyStax]

ICM explorer is what you're looking for i think

[dmindoh]

Originally Posted by SkinnyStax

ICM explorer is what you're looking for i think

Tried dl it but I rly didn't get that program at all.

I have SNGEGT atm that does what I want, but only for the finaltable. I need something that I can use pre FT and for chip ev.

[PAROOVKA]

Also, the more you play them, the more you feel comfortable in the particular situations. IMO experience is really crucial here.

[SkinnyStax]

Originally Posted by dmindoh

Tried dl it but I rly didn't get that program at all.

I have SNGEGT atm that does what I want, but only for the finaltable. I need something that I can use pre FT and for chip ev.

sngwiz is the only program i think that really has a good cev calc.


you can use nash if you set the payout structure to 1.0 and that models close enough to cEV to get a good idea.

[dmindoh]

Originally Posted by SkinnyStax

sngwiz is the only program i think that really has a good cev calc.


you can use nash if you set the payout structure to 1.0 and that models close enough to cEV to get a good idea.

It seems to work alright. Thank you!

[martin_malin]

Originally Posted by dmindoh

I'm looking for a chart/program to train/check up on push ranges. I read somewhere that I can combine pokerstove with some kind of calculator to do it, but I can't find that post.
I'm playing mainly 45man so I suppose I would need something for both chip ev and ICM.

Here's an example of a hand I would want to check up on. I'm not looking for analysis on this particular hand, but for a way that I can figure it out myself. Thanks in advance!

Poker Stars, $3.19 Buy-in (200/400 blinds, 25 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10344982

BB: 2,075 (5.2 bb)
UTG: 7,900 (19.8 bb)
Hero (MP): 6,755 (16.9 bb)
CO: 4,250 (10.6 bb)
BTN: 2,675 (6.7 bb)
SB: 2,908 (7.3 bb)

Preflop: (150) Hero is MP with K 9
UTG folds, Hero raises to 6,730 and is all-in, CO folds, BTN calls 2,650 and is all-in, 2 folds

Flop: (6,050) T K Q (2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: (6,050) T (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: (6,050) A (2 players, 2 are all-in)

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good shove, sng wizard.

[besmod]

Hero (UTG+2): 1,556 (7.8 bb)
MP1: 2,414 (12.1 bb)
MP2: 1,065 (5.3 bb)
MP3: 635 (3.2 bb)
CO: 1,430 (7.2 bb)
BTN: 2,640 (13.2 bb)
SB: 3,860 (19.3 bb)
BB: 2,760 (13.8 bb)

Preflop: (200) Hero is UTG+2 with A J
Hero raises to 1,531 and is all-in...


22 players left, is this a standard fold or shove?

What is the minimum you shove here?

[cashcow10]

hey guys, i have a question. what is the threshold for when we do NOT simply do push/fold? Is it bad to play a raise/fold strategy 20bb? 15bb? 25bb?

[phos77]

$4/180 FT

i've been fairly active but nothing out of line.

couple of orbits ago he 3b me 2.5x and i folded - stacks were similar to this, we were quite a bit ahead of the others so it sorta felt like he was trying to icm **** me.

he seems to be on the taggier side, hadn't seen him do anything out of line as yet. running like 17/16 over a decent sample (80+ hands - non-turbo FTs last forever!)

i'd supersnapfold in a 45man but is the icm a big enough factor in 180s to fold as well? think it probs is but just want a check.


Poker Stars, $4.10 Buy-in (1,000/2,000 blinds, 200 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10497112

UTG: 40,247 (20.1 bb)
MP: 25,299 (12.6 bb)
Hero (CO): 61,142 (30.6 bb)
BTN: 36,796 (18.4 bb)
SB: 83,179 (41.6 bb)
BB: 23,337 (11.7 bb)

Preflop: (1,200) Hero is CO with Q A
2 folds, Hero raises to 4,000, BTN folds, SB raises to 82,979 and is all-in, BB folds, Hero

[rainbowsinthesky]

hey, is it ok to post printscreens of the hands? how many hands can I post in a thread? thx.

[besmod]

Originally Posted by cashcow10

hey guys, i have a question. what is the threshold for when we do NOT simply do push/fold? Is it bad to play a raise/fold strategy 20bb? 15bb? 25bb?

From what I have read/understand, once you are above 13-14BBs you are not always pushing. For me I go into push/fold mode around 10BBs. If I am on the button or cutoff I think it is fine to steal 3x instead of shove, but ig I have a decent hand I usually shove.

[kierczot]

Abt 30ppl left in 3.5+R 180man. All players behind me are randoms.

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $1,600(BB) Replayer
SB ($19,991)
BB ($16,382)
UTG ($23,064)
UTG+1 ($18,994)
Hero ($18,265)
MP1 ($29,977)
CO ($35,289)
BTN ($9,515)

Dealt to Hero Q T

fold, fold, Hero raises to $18,115 (AI),

Correct? SNG Wiz suggests folding for 180man format. What would you do? What's the optimal shoving range?

[deadstack]

Hi Guys/Girls, dont really know if this is the right thread to post in but i'll try anyway thanks xposted from another site just posting here to see if anyone knows


first session on stars last night playing 45 man MTTSNG split ~40% normal ~60% turbo, small winning session although got caught out and stayed up later than i wanted to so have to work out how long i want to stay reg'ing for games - as i don't want to be recked for work in the morning

any one got any idea'show long aver the following games last (on Stars)

45's normal speed
45's Turbo
45's super turbo
90's normal Speed
90's Turbo
90's super turbo
180's normal
180's Turbo
180's Super Turbo

Thanks

[orangepeeleo]

Originally Posted by deadstack

Hi Guys/Girls, dont really know if this is the right thread to post in but i'll try anyway thanks xposted from another site just posting here to see if anyone knows


first session on stars last night playing 45 man MTTSNG split ~40% normal ~60% turbo, small winning session although got caught out and stayed up later than i wanted to so have to work out how long i want to stay reg'ing for games - as i don't want to be recked for work in the morning

any one got any idea'show long aver the following games last (on Stars)

45's normal speed
45's Turbo poss 90mins??
45's super turbo
90's normal Speed
90's Turbo
90's super turbo
180's normal
180's Turbo
180's Super Turbo

Thanks

Have just started playing these yesterday too, best i've done so far is 2x 6th place finishes, both of which took around 75 mins, so I would say that theyre not lasting much longer than that to take one down.

How much volume are you looking at getting in? I stopped reg'ing at around 9:15pm so I wouldnt be wrecked for work in the morning, but only started at around 7:30ish after getting the kids to bed, pretty worried about how much volume i'm gonna do as i'm only 6 tabling atm