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I'm sure this has been asked many times so please bear with me (new to MTTs), and tell me if I should post noob questions like this elsewhere.

What kind of ROI can a decent grinder say 8-tabling expect at Pokerstars: 18m t, 45m t, and 180m t?

And for a husng reg wanting to add MTTs, what should I play? I'm currently playing the 18m to get the hang of things.

Here's some nice post by JP for you: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...&postcount=169

08-16-2012 , 04:47 AM

#378

dbcoop

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Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 79

Poker Stars, $2.28 Buy-in (150/300 blinds, 25 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13732772

MP3: 13,480 (44.9 bb)
Hero (CO): 3,400 (11.3 bb)
BTN: 9,679 (32.3 bb)
SB: 2,159 (7.2 bb)
BB: 3,365 (11.2 bb)
UTG+2: 7,656 (25.5 bb)
MP1: 11,312 (37.7 bb)
MP2: 3,741 (12.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A

4 folds, Hero raises to 3,375 and is all-in, 2 folds, BB calls 3,040 and is all-in

Flop: (7,030) 5

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: (7,030) T

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: (7,030) 5

(2 players, 2 are all-in)

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Standard or unnecessary push? Also thinking about decent range at this pos and stacksize. ~15% is k or to tight maybe?

08-16-2012 , 05:59 AM

#379

Aliquantum

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 1,691

^^ Can't imagine doing anything but push there dbcoop... regardless of villains still to act.

An exact range is obv dependent on the players behind though, but it should be a lot wider than 15%

08-16-2012 , 08:53 PM

#380

l'enfant

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 392

thanks guys, much appreciated!

08-17-2012 , 04:49 AM

#381

poporella

veteran

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 3,186

whats going on in the 45er lately experiencing swing never had beofre, any one have similar experience?

08-17-2012 , 06:05 AM

#382

SngNit

banned

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 480

^ 45's are the biggest SnG mystery of all imo, very hard to suss. my swings are always way worse in those than 180's or anything else.

08-17-2012 , 11:03 AM

#383

Pedro Brazil

newbie

Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 37

Standard shove, right? 180 man ft

Poker Stars, $2.28 Buy-in (1,500/3,000 blinds, 300 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13734552

BB: 80,980 (27 bb)
Hero (MP): 25,984 (8.7 bb)
CO: 60,828 (20.3 bb)
BTN: 48,761 (16.3 bb)
SB: 53,447 (17.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q

Hero raises to 25,684 and is all-in, 4 folds

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08-17-2012 , 03:18 PM

#384

wodka88

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 277

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedro Brazil

Standard shove, right? 180 man ft

Yes

Not an MTT SNG, but hand is not worth its own thread in the MTT section, thats why I am posting it here. $8 Rebuy Turbo

I actually folded, but would this be a shove for you? Feels kinda thin but than again I think it may be +EV

PokerStars - $8+$0.80|800/1600 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+1: 19,280.00
CO: 11,700.00
BTN: 76,604.00
SB: 15,820.00
BB: 11,360.00
UTG: 11,100.00
Hero (UTG+1): 21,572.00
MP: 34,018.00

Pre Flop: (pot: 3680.00) Hero has T

08-19-2012 , 04:57 AM

#385

Tregon

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 281

Shove for me, bottom though

08-20-2012 , 06:49 PM

#386

Pedro Brazil

newbie

Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 37

Is this too agressive? 180 man ft

Poker Stars, $2.28 Buy-in (1,000/2,000 blinds, 200 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13762022

BB: 30,244 (15.1 bb)
UTG+1: 21,463 (10.7 bb)
Hero (UTG+2): 17,280 (8.6 bb)
MP1: 26,025 (13 bb)
MP2: 18,804 (9.4 bb)
MP3: 20,634 (10.3 bb)
CO: 65,702 (32.9 bb)
BTN: 32,534 (16.3 bb)
SB: 37,314 (18.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 9

UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to 17,080 and is all-in, 7 folds

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08-20-2012 , 08:01 PM

#387

ERRRRRRRRRR

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pedro Brazil

Is this too agressive? 180 man ft

UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to 17,080 and is all-in, 7 folds

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No its fine. Nh

08-21-2012 , 04:00 AM

#388

dbcoop

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Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 79

Ur the shortest here so K9s look more then fine here.

08-21-2012 , 05:09 PM

#389

phos77

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 5,496

2 players sitting out, either MP3 & CO, or CO & BTN.

wasn't sure whether minr/f was better than jamming here. i just minraised the last hand and it folded round.
~40 players left.

Poker Stars, $55.25 Buy-in (300/600 blinds, 50 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

BB: 12,066 (20.1 bb)
Hero (UTG+1): 8,707 (14.5 bb)
UTG+2: 2,712 (4.5 bb)
MP1: 5,186 (8.6 bb)
MP2: 9,643 (16.1 bb)
MP3: 5,877 (9.8 bb)
CO: 5,016 (8.4 bb)
BTN: 5,951 (9.9 bb)
SB: 13,940 (23.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A

Hero raises to 8,657 and is all-in

08-21-2012 , 07:03 PM

#390

Robinho2611

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,329

Quote:

whats going on in the 45er lately experiencing swing never had beofre, any one have similar experience?

Yes. I want to cry. 3K breakeven.

08-22-2012 , 02:29 AM

#391

SngNit

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Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 480

^ Play somethnig else? I never see you in anything but 45's, presumably you don't make a living from this game...?

08-22-2012 , 03:58 AM

#392

Robinho2611

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,329

Quote:

Originally Posted by SngNit

^ Play somethnig else? I never see you in anything but 45's, presumably you don't make a living from this game...?

Maybe that's the answer

.
And good god no!

08-22-2012 , 12:38 PM

#393

Pedro Brazil

newbie

Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 37

45 man, 12 players left. Folding is too nitty, right?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 3.5 Tournament, 150/300 Blinds 25 Ante (8 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Hero (UTG) (t2583)
UTG+1 (t2911)
MP1 (t6605)
MP2 (t5691)
CO (t2608)
Button (t2605)
SB (t6281)
BB (t4232)

Hero's M: 3.97

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A

, 7

Total pot: t500

08-22-2012 , 02:16 PM

#394

Robinho2611

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,329

No, folding is fine. Close though!

08-23-2012 , 04:07 PM

#395

Pedro Brazil

newbie

Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 37

Sng wiz kinda hates this shove. Is it alright? 45 man ft

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 3.5 Tournament, 1000/2000 Blinds 100 Ante (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

Button (t2163)
SB (t13253)
BB (t15494)
UTG (t17387)
Hero (MP) (t11908)
CO (t7295)

Hero's M: 3.31

Preflop: Hero is MP with 2

, 2

1 fold, Hero bets t11808 (All-In)

Total pot: t5600

08-24-2012 , 03:31 AM

#396

Robinho2611

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,329

Yes. Absolutely fine. You're only 6BB deep and have to shove one of the next couple of hands to not cripple yourself. 22 is a great hand here.

08-24-2012 , 08:29 AM

#397

Tregon

grinder

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 281

Did you change edge, calling ranges etc.? Super standard shove.

08-24-2012 , 04:41 PM

#398

ERRRRRRRRRR

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 294

22 with 6bbs into 4 is def a shove. The only reason I can see for Wiz to hate this shove is because we have like 0 FE against the 2 micro stacks. But it's still a +cEV shove if you adjust calling range properly cuz randoms (if they are) tend to call way to tight with micro stacks in these games. gl nh

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08-26-2012 , 11:34 AM

#399

kuukelekkuuff

stranger

Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 10

Hi, i hope somebody here can help me. I'm running TOI which is a great program. But have a small problem. When i have a table in my grid (which is not locked to stay there) and the hand finishes with a showdown, the relevant table will not move back into the stack. It stays in grid waiting on a new hand. This also happens when we dont have a showdown, but villain folds a hand. My tables only move back into the stack when i use my fold button.

I run TOI, TN and HM during play. My settings for TOI i VPIP mode

08-29-2012 , 12:33 AM

#400

Pedro Brazil

newbie

Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 37

Is this alright? 180 man, prob less then 30 players left

Poker Stars, $2.28 Buy-in (400/800 blinds, 75 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13820612

: 9,243 (11.6 bb)
BTN: 5,070 (6.3 bb)
SB: 14,015 (17.5 bb)
BB: 19,037 (23.8 bb)
UTG+1: 7,830 (9.8 bb)
UTG+2: 6,930 (8.7 bb)
MP1: 9,920 (12.4 bb)
Hero (MP2): 5,199 (6.5 bb)
: 4,789 (6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 9

3 folds, Hero raises to 5,124 and is all-in

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