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08-12-2011, 02:24 AM
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deviation of equilibrium
Join Date: May 2009
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*** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***
This is the official MTTSNG thread for a quick linecheck or if you want a question to be answered quickly.
Be precise with your question and explain the spot to get good responses.
As always, be polite to other posters and treat each other with respect.
Example:
I have a scenario that I was a bit confused about when it came up:
It's the hand for hand on the exact bubble of a $15 180, blinds 600/1200/125 antes, here is the small blind with only 50 chips behind after posting ante + SB.
Hero notices that someone has busted already as "smallest stack" is now 0. Hero can safely assume that the busted player had him covered because his own stack is so small.
Dealt to Hero: 7  2
UTG raises to 3600, MP calls, Hero ?
edit: And if we are folding 72o, what is the bottom of our calling range?
GL
the mods
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08-12-2011, 03:04 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: bay area
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Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***
win it you're at ~2500 with a stack that isnt worth much more than a mincash, lose you bust. you're like 25% to win it. would be more interesting if you had KK, no? get picked by AWice for the protege experiment and maybe he'll do the math for you!
Last edited by ftn_chris; 08-12-2011 at 03:09 PM.
Reason: i dont know if this was an example as in "heres how you post" or a "heres the first one" :(
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08-12-2011, 06:13 PM
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centurion
Join Date: Apr 2011
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Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***
woof
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08-12-2011, 06:41 PM
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Pooh-Bah
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Location: bay area
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Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***
oh i didnt even see that mp called
MAYBE FOR YOUR NEXT EXAMPLE YOU SHOULD HAVE A HH FORMAT THAT DOESNT SUCK.
<3
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08-13-2011, 03:06 AM
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old hand
Join Date: Jun 2010
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Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***
Calling range is very VERY narrow in this spot. Guaranteed $30 or something with the gtd bubble boy. Even if we call and win (which is so so unlikely) we only have a stack worth 3875. Think my calling range is either KK+ or AA
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08-13-2011, 05:24 AM
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deviation of equilibrium
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Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***
Quote:
Originally Posted by ftn_chris
oh i didnt even see that mp called
MAYBE FOR YOUR NEXT EXAMPLE YOU SHOULD HAVE A HH FORMAT THAT DOESNT SUCK.
<3
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gotcha chris
good advice
also for everyone else!
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08-13-2011, 07:44 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: RAISING UP TO MY ABILITY
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Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***
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08-14-2011, 01:19 AM
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enthusiast
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 97
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Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***
Hey. I just want to know if I'm playing way out of line here, or if this shove is correct. It's the bubble of a 45man turbo. No maniacs or superdonks at the table from the stats I got, so I'm not counting on any light calls. So assuming I will be called very tight, is this shove +EV, or am I just way to loose here?
Poker Stars, $3.19 Buy-in (400/800 blinds, 50 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10269172
SB: 9,621 (12 bb)
BB: 9,209 (11.5 bb)
Hero (UTG+2): 16,077 (20.1 bb)
: 7,378 (9.2 bb)
: 10,360 (13 bb)
: 5,915 (7.4 bb)
: 6,782 (8.5 bb)
BTN: 2,158 (2.7 bb)
Preflop: (400) Hero is UTG+2 with A  3
Hero raises to 16,027 and is all-in
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08-14-2011, 03:25 AM
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journeyman
Join Date: Mar 2011
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Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***
I'd rather tighten the range, especially in 45-man. People tend to be really nits in them, and, as Chillin Dude said in his thread, you need to start shoving wide from as little as 7-8 BB deep. That deep and from UTG+2, it's fold. You have great stack atm and should wait for much better spots than this.
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08-15-2011, 09:23 AM
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old hand
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Buenos Aires
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Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***
Quote:
Originally Posted by dmindoh
Hey. I just want to know if I'm playing way out of line here, or if this shove is correct. It's the bubble of a 45man turbo. No maniacs or superdonks at the table from the stats I got, so I'm not counting on any light calls. So assuming I will be called very tight, is this shove +EV, or am I just way to loose here?
Poker Stars, $3.19 Buy-in (400/800 blinds, 50 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #10269172
SB: 9,621 (12 bb)
BB: 9,209 (11.5 bb)
Hero (UTG+2): 16,077 (20.1 bb)
: 7,378 (9.2 bb)
: 10,360 (13 bb)
: 5,915 (7.4 bb)
: 6,782 (8.5 bb)
BTN: 2,158 (2.7 bb)
Preflop: (400) Hero is UTG+2 with A  3
Hero raises to 16,027 and is all-in
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Definitely too deep to be shoving here. If MP1 or 2 snap you off, (which is probably more likely than you think) you are in serious trouble. If you really want to get fancy, your stack is technically deep enough to min raise here and call off the button, however be prepared for the BB to come along for the ride and your flop play better be pretty decent because it could get sticky fast. Best is just fold.
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08-15-2011, 09:51 AM
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centurion
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 133
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Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $100(BB) Replayer
SB ($1,540)
BB ($1,715)
UTG ($1,980)
UTG+1 ($1,250)
UTG+2 ($3,275)
CO ($4,155)
Hero ($1,300)
Dealt to Hero K  7
fold, fold, fold, Hero ??
7$ 45 man sb/bb are unknown and tight over 40hands
13bb without Antes from BU - you shove like its a nobrainer?
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08-15-2011, 10:19 AM
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old hand
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Buenos Aires
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Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobson
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $100(BB) Replayer
SB ($1,540)
BB ($1,715)
UTG ($1,980)
UTG+1 ($1,250)
UTG+2 ($3,275)
CO ($4,155)
Hero ($1,300)
Dealt to Hero K  7
fold, fold, fold, Hero ??
7$ 45 man sb/bb are unknown and tight over 40hands
13bb without Antes from BU - you shove like its a nobrainer?
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I think the bottom of my range here is K9s Qjs J10s Ax
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08-15-2011, 10:32 AM
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journeyman
Join Date: Mar 2011
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Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***
It's a boarder spot, and not no-brainer, but against two tight blinds I ship lighter, so it's an easy shove
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08-15-2011, 05:21 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Jun 2009
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Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***
Def. not shipping K7s there.
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08-15-2011, 07:16 PM
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old hand
Join Date: Jun 2010
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Re: *** Official MTTSNG quick checkup thread ***
Think its a close fold, I ship 10-11 bb probably... maybe
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