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Old 05-23-2017, 09:58 PM   #1
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Most profitable SNG format?

Hey everyone,

This is my first post and I haven't found a recent debate/study on this topic on the internet, so I thought it would be interesting to get some fresh 2017 thoughts.

My question is what is the most profitable SNG format with around $300 bankroll?

Initial thoughts and research lead me to believe that 180/45/18 man turbos are best, but how do they compare to 6 max hypers/STT turbos.

In terms of my skill beating any of the games won't be a problem at these stakes so let's assume all that needs to be done is hard grinding.

Also, what kind of bankroll management is considered optimal for the games you choose?

Thanks in advance!
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Old 05-25-2017, 03:39 PM   #2
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Re: Most profitable SNG format?

play 2.50 180 and 1.50 45 people with bankroll
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Old 05-25-2017, 06:29 PM   #3
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Re: Most profitable SNG format?

Thank you mate I'll give it a go, gl on the tables
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Old 05-26-2017, 01:26 PM   #4
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Re: Most profitable SNG format?

I am trying to get into these as well to keep table space full while playing MTTs do you not think they are too reg infested? Or still beatable?
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Old 06-06-2017, 12:26 PM   #5
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play 2.50 180 and 1.50 45 people with bankroll
I belive you should play only the 1.50$ 45 man with that bankroll, stay away from 2.50$ the variance can be harsh .
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Old 06-12-2017, 01:06 PM   #6
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I belive you should play only the 1.50$ 45 man with that bankroll, stay away from 2.50$ the variance can be harsh .
Although, if you go on a 100 buyin swing at 2.50's you def got some leaks.
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Old 06-16-2017, 07:48 AM   #7
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Although, if you go on a 100 buyin swing at 2.50's you def got some leaks.
I think you are underestimating the variance of 180s.

If you play 180's with a 20% roi, and this is very good these days - well in the top 1% of players at them, you will see a 100BI downswing 55% of the time in each 1000 game block you play, and a near certainty to see one in 5000 games. It is true that we all do have leaks though.



Hopefully by the time you see the 100BI downswing you will have earned enough BI's to cope. You can't keep just a 100BI roll at 180s unless you are the type that keeps moving up and down through stakes otherwise you go bust. Even with a 40% roi 50% of every new 2000 game block played will have a 100BI downswing in it.
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Old 06-17-2017, 01:11 PM   #8
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Re: Most profitable SNG format?

I second that. I wouldn't play only the $2.50 180s with a $300 roll. I've played thousands of these games with a high roi and can tell you it's a bad idea. Perhaps play the $1 games and mix in a few $2.50s then as your roll grows move up to only the 2.50s etcc
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Old 06-20-2017, 05:47 AM   #9
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Re: Most profitable SNG format?

Lol 100 Buyins down is a downswing? Funny joke.

200-250 Buyins is a really downswing on this limit.

100 Buyins down i had on 3k games this year 3 or 4 times.

By the way I have 24.3% ROI
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Old 07-16-2017, 01:34 PM   #10
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Re: Most profitable SNG format?

yeah 180mans are profitable and also the devil. the payout structure is just so insane if you compare it to a 200man mtt or a 45/18man.

300$ sounds good for 1.5$ 45man, maybe 3.5$ 18man too. you can add some 2.5$s since you got 100 BI, but I would be very quick in stopping to play them, whenever you lose some BI
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Old 07-17-2017, 03:08 AM   #11
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Re: Most profitable SNG format?

I used excels random number generator (1-180) and the $2.5 180m payouts and got over 5k swings on a million games (without rake). Hopefully you can do better than that but they're so top heavy, variance is killer, better know you're ICM
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