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Old 07-25-2012, 04:28 PM   #1
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KQ - An unsure spot

Hand history converter hasn't worked for me for a long time now so I'm forced to do this instead. An interesting spot in my opinion.

The raise itself just wreaks of premium hand IMO.

MP1 (4310 in chips)
CO (2229 in chips)
BU (3194 in chips)
SB (HERO) (7868 in chips)
BB (3135 in chips)
UTG (1996 in chips)
UTG1 (1765 in chips)
UTG2 (2469 in chips)
MP (1565 in chips) is sitting out

All post the ante 25

SB (HERO) posts small blind 125
BB posts big blind 250

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SB (HERO) [K Q]
UTG raises 500 to 750
UTG1 folds
UTG2 folds
MP folds
MP1 folds
CO folds
BU folds
SB (HERO) ?
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Old 07-25-2012, 05:53 PM   #2
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Re: KQ - An unsure spot

Unless you think he's a total donk it looks like he wants action. I would fold. Even if he has not adjusted at all to his stack size his UTG range will still have you crushed.
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Old 07-25-2012, 06:03 PM   #3
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Re: KQ - An unsure spot

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Old 07-25-2012, 07:20 PM   #4
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Re: KQ - An unsure spot

You can comfortably fold especially with your stack size.
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Old 07-25-2012, 09:34 PM   #5
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Re: KQ - An unsure spot

readless its an ez fold, there arent much worst cards a villain (no matter how bad he could be) might be opening 3x from UTG with 8bb stack for KQo to be good there, you have virtually no fold equity and you´re uncertain about villains range, so you have to base to determine anything, at best this is a marginal spot and you have a healthy stack so why risking it
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Old 07-27-2012, 12:45 PM   #6
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Re: KQ - An unsure spot

To those advocating a fold: If villain outright shoves, what is your play? What is your perception of villains range when he 3x's with 8bb vs when he shoves?

If players are perceiving non-allin raises by small stacks (that are still clearly committing themselves) as stronger than open shoves, then I clearly need to start working that into my game.

If we treat this as an open shove (which it essentially is) and villain is at all competent, it's actually close for us to iso jam here.
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Old 07-28-2012, 07:27 AM   #7
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Re: KQ - An unsure spot

I would fold this and against a complete random also fold vs openshove. Most randoms just shove way tighter then they should and we don't do particularly well against tight ranges w KQo.
BTW when a rando makes this sort of play I tend to think of it as being somewhat strong, vs a reg I'd just view it as an open shove (havent done the math but prob isoing against a reg)
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Old 07-28-2012, 07:54 AM   #8
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