JJ Co with 21 BB...called by two loose V and V donk bets on A high flop

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01-31-2014 , 01:01 PM

omg!donk

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Hero has JJ and raises 2.5 BB from CO, two Villians call:

V1 : 70/32(30 hands)
V2: 57/20 (30 hands)

V1 donk bets ace high flop, what does hero do?

Poker Stars, $1.36 Buy-in (50/100 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 7 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #23094581

BB: 2,760 (27.6 bb)
MP1: 1,235 (12.4 bb)
MP2: 3,175 (31.8 bb)
MP3: 1,415 (14.2 bb)
Hero (CO): 2,110 (21.1 bb)
BTN: 1,320 (13.2 bb)
SB: 3,170 (31.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J

3 folds, Hero raises to 250, BTN folds, SB calls 200, BB calls 150

Flop: (750) A

(3 players)
SB bets 100, BB folds, Hero calls 100

Turn: (950) 3

(2 players)
SB bets 200, Hero calls 200

River: (1,350) K

(2 players)
SB bets 300, Hero folds

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His betting is very weak, but if he has an ace he will call if we over the top.
What is the correct line in IP?

Last edited by omg!donk; 01-31-2014 at 01:06 PM.

01-31-2014 , 01:52 PM

fidstar-poker

I'm gonna need a hacksaw

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with two calling pre, I'd fold turn

01-31-2014 , 02:42 PM

omg!donk

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 113

Quote:

Originally Posted by fidstar-poker

with two calling pre, I'd fold turn

Any comments on the betting pattern of the V. I think on river i can not beat nything but a missed draw, so i give up on river.

01-31-2014 , 06:18 PM

fidstar-poker

I'm gonna need a hacksaw

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 32,983

Quote:

Originally Posted by omg!donk

Any comments on the betting pattern of the V. I think on river i can not beat nything but a missed draw, so i give up on river.

looks like he has a weak ace. That's why I think folding turn is best.

01-31-2014 , 06:25 PM

taipan168

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,740

Quote:

Originally Posted by fidstar-poker

looks like he has a weak ace. That's why I think folding turn is best.

Agree, if the turn had gone check/check then I would probably call a small bet on the river.

01-31-2014 , 07:03 PM

omg!donk

centurion

Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 113

Quote:

Originally Posted by taipan168

Agree, if the turn had gone check/check then I would probably call a small bet on the river.

So folding turn was best here. I thought even with weak betting i culd not come over the top, because if he had a weak ace he would call.

01-31-2014 , 08:30 PM

emitnulB

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Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 3,444

Don't fold the turn. Folding river is fine because his range is probably flush draws/Ax/(3x?) on the flop and the flush got there.

Folding the turn is just terrible. Why are we even calling the flop if we fold to this weak ass turn bet? We have nearly the same odds and he has exactly the same range.

02-01-2014 , 09:01 AM

katwax

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Join Date: Oct 2012 Posts: 124

Quote:

Originally Posted by emitnulB

This.
If we call flop why don't call turn, the 3 didn't change a thing.
So I would say fold flop or call flop and turn.

02-01-2014 , 07:53 PM

taipan168

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,740

Actually on reflection I think I would probably call the turn bet as well, contrary to what I previously said. Agree with folding the river as played.

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