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Old 08-09-2012, 11:06 AM   #16
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Re: I Min raise utg, shorty shoves...............

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Old 08-09-2012, 11:51 AM   #17
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Re: I Min raise utg, shorty shoves...............

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Just wondering if you would fold this hand UTG then which hands would you open with UTG?
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Old 08-09-2012, 11:59 AM   #18
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Just wondering if you would fold this hand UTG then which hands would you open with UTG?

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Old 08-09-2012, 12:03 PM   #19
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Snap call.
What would you do if a bigger stack shoves over?
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Old 08-09-2012, 01:58 PM   #20
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Re: I Min raise utg, shorty shoves...............

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what's your reasoning?
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Old 08-09-2012, 02:22 PM   #21
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what's your reasoning?
yeah really curious too cause i would have open raise A10s
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Old 08-09-2012, 03:44 PM   #22
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what's your reasoning?
we are UTG. playing this OOP if we get called aint a great spot.

if we get shoved by these 10-12 bb stacks they show up with a very strong range where we are atmost flipping
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Old 08-09-2012, 04:03 PM   #23
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Re: I Min raise utg, shorty shoves...............

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we are UTG. playing this OOP if we get called aint a great spot.

if we get shoved by these 10-12 bb stacks they show up with a very strong range where we are atmost flipping
We aren't going to call the 10-12 bb stacks though unless we know that they shove wide with that stack size. I think it's fine to open this hand and call the 3 short stacks and fold to others.

If the 10-12bb stacks aren't shoving wide then we don't expect them to shove very often so you shouldn't be worried about that, and the odd times they do shove, we just fold. And if 1 of them happens to shove wide then we are more than happy to call no? So in this case we have even more of a reason to open this hand.
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Old 08-09-2012, 04:38 PM   #24
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We aren't going to call the 10-12 bb stacks though unless we know that they shove wide with that stack size. I think it's fine to open this hand and call the 3 short stacks and fold to others.

If the 10-12bb stacks aren't shoving wide then we don't expect them to shove very often so you shouldn't be worried about that, and the odd times they do shove, we just fold. And if 1 of them happens to shove wide then we are more than happy to call no? So in this case we have even more of a reason to open this hand.
agree an open MR with our big stack(30bb) is also ok.

edit: thaugt there were only 2 shortstacks. 3 shortstacks makes it more worth it, definitely if they're somewhat spazzy
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Old 08-09-2012, 06:27 PM   #25
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Old 08-09-2012, 08:41 PM   #26
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Re: I Min raise utg, shorty shoves...............

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Are you saying that it is a bad play to minraise/call the short stacks here? I thought it is a standard play and profitable and if it's profitable then why not do it? If it's not profitable then why isn't it profitable?
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Re: I Min raise utg, shorty shoves...............

This thread might be helpful
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Old 08-10-2012, 06:29 AM   #28
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This thread might be helpful

only thing is we are not in the "strange zone"
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Old 08-10-2012, 07:59 AM   #29
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Re: I Min raise utg, shorty shoves...............

Close enough. M of 12 or 13,5 is strange enough for me

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Old 08-10-2012, 08:31 AM   #30
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Re: I Min raise utg, shorty shoves...............

std open pre, r/c shorties, r/f to the rest!
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