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How should I play 27 man? How should I play 27 man?

02-27-2017 , 06:23 AM
Hi everyone, I'm an Italian's player, and lately I play the 27 man sng on pokerstars.it with buy-in 50 cent. I play 6x(multitabling) and this is my ITM %
which is 25.66, I'm in decline of about 10€. My game is so: first blinds(10/20- 25/50) I play as a BSS( Big Stack Strategy for cash game) then I try to steal always with BSS chart that is this:
https://www.pokerstrategy.com/downlo...tabelle_gb.pdf when the blinds are >= 25/50.
When my stack is <= 12-13 BB I use push/fold.For training ICM I use sngwizard v.1 and on 100 quiz I answer correctly between 79%-90%. I have some leak for example I can't do all-in with 3BB when I have a ugly hand, is wrong?Ok, is it right play so?
Ah I haven't HM/PokerTracker
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02-28-2017 , 04:23 AM
I'm not really sure what your question is?

If you get down to 3BB, my shoving range is really wide, probably something like top 80-90% of all hands because you do still have some fold equity and the BB may well call you with any two cards, which you can do pretty well against.
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02-28-2017 , 07:09 AM
ok, but if I have 3BB and someone push or raise before than me, or I'm of early position, must I always push?

My question was this, I have described my game, and I want to know if is it ok?
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02-28-2017 , 09:41 AM
When you have 3bb in early position you should shove even wider then an ICM calculator suggests. Wiz HRC and ICMizer are based on ICM. Although ICM is a great model spots like this are when it shows its limitations. ICM does not take into account your position relative to the BB. With HRC you can run it with FGS (future game simulation) to try and take position into account. Not sure if Wiz has this. But even if it doesn't you can adjust yourself and shove wider then Wiz suggest for spots utg and utg+1 when you have circa 3bb.

Why if you have identified a leak cant you go all in in such spots. Are you worried what players think of your play or something? What's that matter? If you think people think your a fish for such a play, well in fact the opposite is probably true, and who cares anyway.

As regards calling of light with 3bb if you are in the bb and sb who has 12bb shoves and you have 74o and think hes a reg shoving nash you can call. 74o is a nash call with 3.2bb . 72o is 2.6bb nash call. Now that doesn't take into account antis so with antis you should call in the bb to a sb shove for 3bb with any two cards. Especially as our micro stack means we have almost no ICM tax and we also gain fe on future shove situations if we double up. ( again the icm model doesn't take that into account).

Obviously there are exceptions very near the bubble.
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02-28-2017 , 10:05 AM
ok I believe to understand (i'm Italian), to me worries the get down 10-15€ to the 50 cent for that I am here, for understanding where I wrong.Today play last 17-18 game to the 27 man.
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03-01-2017 , 05:40 AM
Ignore that stupid BSS chart. There is no way it is correct to always fold AQ to a single raise, regardless of where it comes from. Probably you should almost never fold it (maybe if the initial raise is UTG 9 handed and you are next to act, and it's AQo).
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03-02-2017 , 08:05 PM
If you do want to use charts. Try Zerosums book. its called something like crushing online sit and go's. I don't use charts but if that's how you want to play.

It relies on you doing some work rather then shoving someone elses ranges. The book gets you to construct your own charts adapted for the player pool you are playing. (he uses wiz to construct his ranges which you have ).

As well as being adapted to your player pool the process of producing the charts will improve your game rather then stunt its development.

Another advantage for his approach is he uses what he calls a pivot point principle. Basically this makes it easier to implement in game as well as allowing a little flexibility for in game conditions.

He describes his pivot point as the point you would anchor a boat in a harbour the boat is almost never directly above its anchor and will move somewhat in the direction of the tide. The tide in this metaphor is the looseness/tightness of villain/s.

Hope this make sense as I realize English isn't your first language.

Goodluck with which ever approach you choose.
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