Hey guys, I'm new to this forum so be patient... This is actually the first time I've experienced a hand that has perplexed me so. I thought I'd share it and see what everyone thinks.

Unfortunately, it was on Bovada and I don't have the hand nicely recorded anywhere, although I jotted down all the relevant info to put here. I'm going to break the hand down into two parts. I want to hear some opinions on the first part before proceeding to the second part of the hand...

- Bovada, 5-table SNG, 45 players, $1.00+$.10, starting stack of $1,500
- At the time of the hand in question, I was the overall chip leader with about 12-13 people left split between two tables
- Our table had 7 or 8 players.
- Almost all opponents had stacks of $2,000 or less and I was sitting with $5,886. One villain (involved in this hand) was the only major threat with $4,710.
- because Bovada is anonymous, don't have much read on any of the players. Because we were closing in on a final table, players were polarized...either very loose or very tight waiting to shove.

Blinds: 50/100
Hero (BB): $5,886
V1 (UTG+3): $4,710
V2 (SB): $1,855

HERO has 66

UTG+3 raises to $200, SB calls, HERO calls.

Flop: Q46
SB checks, HERO bets $400, UTG+3 raises to $800, SB raises all-in to $1,655

So if you were me at this point, what would you have done??? Would you have done something different pre flop or flop? Would appreciate hearing some thoughts on the matter and then I'll share what happened for further discussion...

pre I prob jam. There's 600 out there, you're gonna miss the flop almost always, and you are forcing V1 into a decision for his tournament. He's gonna fold almost everything. If SB then comes along who cares, flipping with him is fine.

As played otf 4bet jam. V is saying he has a hand he's willing to go with, so gotta give him the chance. I think if there was no FD I'd be more inclined to smooth call, but if a spade hits, he may get away from a big pair, or if he was on the draw himself he got there when we didn't charge him the max to draw out.

I think you're too deep for shoving pre. otf would 4bet yam as well.

I think shoving pre flop would have been necessarily risky. While I'm not worried about the shorter stacks calling me, I don't think there's a need to potentially clash against the next big stack who has position on me and has already shown somewhat good cards with a raise. In fact, his min-raise could signify a monster.

Perhaps I should have 3 bet pre flop, but again, I saw no reason to clash against the big stack at this point.

In any event, as played, I agree with both of you that shoving was the best option, which is what I did.

So to continue...

Flop: Q46
SB checks, HERO bets $400, UTG+3 raises to $800, SB raises all-in to $1,655, HERO raises all-in to $5,686, UTG+3 calls all-in

Turn: K

River: 10

V1 shows KK for turned set
V2 shows AQ

As you can see, even if I shoved pre flop or reared pre flop, V1 was committed to putting all his money in.

Was there any way for met to avoid this? As the overall chip leader, should I have somehow taken the foot of the gas to get into the money? I guess the question I was really asking myself when I started this thread was whether I should have simply called the turn, but I have taken comfort with both of you agreeing that shoving OTF was the correct move. I just can't believe that V1 would risk his entire stack when there is so much that beats him. It was a crushing blow to my stack and I didn't really recover after that.

I'm trying to use these MTT as practice before my first WSOP experience and this hand just crushed me...

Avoid what ? 12% chance to loose?

Maybe I'm really trying to understand this hand from the villain's point of view. It just bothers me that the two monster stacks collided in this hand.

Does his play make sense? Sure, he could have bet bigger pre flop and post flop, but that wouldn't matter since the small blind would no doubt still go all in with the check-raise and I would still raise all-in myself with a set of 6s. But if you were the Villain holding KK, would you call your whole stack with an overpair?

Well with an overpair, two opponents, and both SD and FD, he should tax you the max and/or get paid by AQ. The odds of running into a set are small, and just unlucky.

Yeah, 50 BB deep, maybe he could have played more conservative, but idk if I'd get away from this either. It's a tourney for a dollar. I'd expect KK to be ahead 90+% of the time.

Monster stacks will collide from time to time, and if he knows you are all about pot control, often the more aggro player takes it.

Please don't take this the wrong way, but you said you're prepping for WSOP? Cuz online tourneys for a buck aren't really gonna cut it. And getting sucked out on shouldn't "crush" you. If you feel like that with a cappucino on the line, it's gonna be MUCH worse for real money.

(I can go on tilt as well, but anyone who multitables will have this happen to them a couple times a day, at least. As well as occasionally getting lucky themselves. Gotta get used to it.)

No offense taken. I understand that it's only $1 and perhaps 'crushed' was an over exaggeration. That being said, I tend to hate losing anything, whether it's $1 or $1,000. Ordinarily I wouldn't think of playing a WSOP tournament, but the relatively cheap Colossus fee hooked me in.

I really do try to play the $1 MTT like I would a $500 MTT. I think it's because of this viewpoint that I failed to previously consider your point that for someone with the mentality of "it's only $1", shoving with an overpair was automatic.

Anyway, I'll let this post die it's natural death. I appreciate the responses.

You seem to lack experience, you should feel happy to gii as a huge favourite. Coolers like that happen all the time.

Call preflop is trivial, jam 50bb in a minraise pot seems ridiculous.
4b flop the flop is obvious, there are a lot of bad cards for you.

The only real decision for you is weather to donk lead the flop or c/r. I like leading with the chance of sb shoving in which case you can rejam. If it was heads up and villain had a high cbet % would tend to c/r

Postflop is fine. For me the question is what to do with 66 pre. Not sure I like calling. You are unlikely to hit the flop and are not being offered good odds to do so. I probably r/f.