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Old 02-21-2012, 05:10 AM   #1
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FT $8 180man 4ppl left

Villain was very active and was shoving about 75% of hands, which is nothing unusual since he was huge chip leader. SNG Wiz tells to fold even if he's pushing 100%. What do you do here?

    Poker Stars, $7.34 Buy-in (2,000/4,000 blinds, 400 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 4 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11935362

    BTN: 161,761 (40.4 bb)
    SB: 18,294 (4.6 bb)
    Hero (BB): 51,583 (12.9 bb)
    CO: 38,362 (9.6 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with Q A
    CO folds, BTN raises to 161,361 and is all-in, SB folds, Hero calls 47,183 and is all-in

    Flop: (105,966) K 5 9 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
    Turn: (105,966) 3 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
    River: (105,966) A (2 players, 2 are all-in)




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    Old 02-21-2012, 05:31 AM   #2
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    Re: FT $8 180man 4ppl left

    I would call, you can't ask for a better spot tbh
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    Old 02-21-2012, 06:22 AM   #3
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    You need to dominate his range.
    Given your description, you do.
    So you call.
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    Old 02-21-2012, 08:03 AM   #4
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    There is no way you are folding this
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    Old 02-21-2012, 08:23 AM   #5
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    call quickly...
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    Old 02-21-2012, 08:45 AM   #6
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    Re: FT $8 180man 4ppl left

    Quote:
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    Villain was very active and was shoving about 75% of hands, which is nothing unusual since he was huge chip leader. SNG Wiz tells to fold even if he's pushing 100%. What do you do here?
    uninstall wiz
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    Old 02-21-2012, 10:01 AM   #7
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    Re: FT $8 180man 4ppl left

    never folding such a good oppurtunity like this. if you apply the logic of folding then u never call until u have aa,kk,qq,jj
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    Old 02-22-2012, 02:01 AM   #8
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    Re: FT $8 180man 4ppl left

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    uninstall wiz
    +1. lol........

    Not folding this. you are 2nd in chips but 3rd among the shorty's
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    Old 02-22-2012, 03:49 AM   #9
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    Re: FT $8 180man 4ppl left

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    uninstall wiz
    this lol

    wiz always tells me to throw money away.
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    Old 02-28-2012, 03:34 PM   #10
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    snap! his range is tooooooooooooo wide to fold here.
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    Old 02-28-2012, 06:01 PM   #11
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    Re: FT $8 180man 4ppl left

    i fold, cause i come from 45ers and am used to these kind of folds.

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    Old 02-28-2012, 06:32 PM   #12
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    i fold, cause i come from 45ers and am used to these kind of folds.
    y is it a fold at 45ers?
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    Old 02-28-2012, 06:51 PM   #13
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    Re: FT $8 180man 4ppl left

    you loose about -0,3-0,5 $ev. You have over 10BB and 2nd in chips + 4BB stack in play.

    Here to double up vs the bs is not as significant as much as to bust before the shorti. (Who guarantees you have a 30/70 setup, only 30% or less of his range are Ax?)
    Had i 10BB or less then i snap.

    (generally 45er regs are more icm aware than 180men regs)
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    Old 02-29-2012, 09:08 AM   #14
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    Re: FT $8 180man 4ppl left

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    (generally 45er regs are more icm aware than 180men regs)
    this true imo.
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    Old 02-29-2012, 04:47 PM   #15
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    Re: FT $8 180man 4ppl left

    tough spot, ICM wise slightly -EV, but I am so tempted to call given his tendencies. Why didn't he raise so we can push?:P However, the presence of the shorty makes it a difficult decision because we're second in chips and should call the big stack with absolute top of our range.
    mówiąc w skrócie, raczej fold ze względu na ICM
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