Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
finla table 4,5$ 180 man finla table 4,5$ 180 man

11-19-2015 , 07:57 AM
hi guys i played this hand...what do you say about my line...villain has got vpip=19 pfr=8...also..i am doing a small reraise preflop to isolate villain...im doing a cbet slmost 50% of the pot..the turn its good for me biut i choose to check because on his range maybe thereis some pocket pairs of 44 22 +flush draw...the river is a disaster for me...so what do yopu believe?thanks for your time guysss
11-19-2015 , 07:58 AM
SORRY I MUST POST THIS FIRST


    Poker Stars, $4.10 Buy-in (600/1,200 blinds, 125 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37170232

    MP3: 65,811 (54.8 bb)
    CO: 21,714 (18.1 bb)
    Hero (BTN): 32,426 (27 bb)
    SB: 23,892 (19.9 bb)
    BB: 15,730 (13.1 bb)
    UTG+2: 27,844 (23.2 bb)
    MP1: 52,440 (43.7 bb)
    MP2: 30,143 (25.1 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with A Q
    4 folds, CO calls 1,200, Hero raises to 3,320, 2 folds, CO calls 2,120

    Flop: (9,440) A 4 2 (2 players)
    CO checks, Hero bets 4,020, CO calls 4,020

    Turn: (17,480) Q (2 players)
    CO checks, Hero checks

    River: (17,480) 4 (2 players)
    CO bets 14,249 and is all-in, Hero folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: 17,480 pot
    Final Board: A 4 2 Q 4
    CO mucked and won 17,480 (10,015 net)
    Hero mucked A Q and lost (-7,465 net)



    Get the Flash Player to use the Hold'em Manager Replayer.
    11-19-2015 , 08:33 AM
    Pre is good
    I like c/c the flop
    I like c/r this turn

    As played I'm never folding here.
    11-19-2015 , 08:57 AM
    pre is good,but u can consider shoving also,its very profitable for sure

    if u checked turn, he probably thinks that u dont have that ace or smt, call it pleeeeeeeaaaaasee next time
    11-19-2015 , 11:19 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by onehandatatime
    Pre is good
    I like c/c the flop
    I like c/r this turn

    As played I'm never folding here.
    don't get this we are in position.

    I like the c bet. And bet turn as well. then we would have to call river mind as the pot odds would be very different. Betting turn means we are prepared to get our stack in what ever the river. Why did you check the turn? did you really fear sets? with 2 pair at an effective stack size of 18bb we should pay of sets here and not think twice about it, they are such a tiny part of his range. Its not a good spot for pot control and we can definitely get called by worse. the only reason to check here is if we think villain is very aggro and then we have to call river as played.

    As played its kind of difficult as we have under repped our hand. we now only have a bluff catcher so to call or not is very villain dependent. think unless hes aggro I would have to let it go. its pretty much the only river card im folding and only because we haven't bet the turn.

    I know others have said call as played but he should only be value shoving flushes boats and maybe trips. our AQ is exactly the same here as AJ. Are you calling it of here with top pair on a paired 3 to a flush board?

    I dont think Villain is going to value shove Ax here as its caught up with some AX that it had kicker problems against. If he has floated or turned what was a value hand into a bluff then well played Villain with this board run out let him have it.
    11-19-2015 , 03:00 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by URagnatha
    don't get this we are in position.
    yes you're right. And I agree we should be cbetting and vbetting the turn for sure
    11-20-2015 , 01:00 AM
    What about betting bigger on the flop, something like 5500. That bet targets his range of aces and FD, he's going to call with this larger bet and fold everything else with a smaller bet.

    Then bet turn about 12000 bet into 20000. He's made mistake if he calls or folds.
    11-21-2015 , 11:41 AM
    Bet turn. Villain can't see your hand, and if he's calling an A hi flop, why would a turn Queen slow him down?
    11-21-2015 , 12:22 PM
    thanks you guys you have right.. i must have bet on the turn...but really its diffiucult to had something as TJs KJs or some 44 or 22...i think that we are in final table and i dont think that villain bluffing...
    11-21-2015 , 12:24 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by URagnatha
    don't get this we are in position.

    I like the c bet. And bet turn as well. then we would have to call river mind as the pot odds would be very different. Betting turn means we are prepared to get our stack in what ever the river. Why did you check the turn? did you really fear sets? with 2 pair at an effective stack size of 18bb we should pay of sets here and not think twice about it, they are such a tiny part of his range. Its not a good spot for pot control and we can definitely get called by worse. the only reason to check here is if we think villain is very aggro and then we have to call river as played.

    As played its kind of difficult as we have under repped our hand. we now only have a bluff catcher so to call or not is very villain dependent. think unless hes aggro I would have to let it go. its pretty much the only river card im folding and only because we haven't bet the turn.

    I know others have said call as played but he should only be value shoving flushes boats and maybe trips. our AQ is exactly the same here as AJ. Are you calling it of here with top pair on a paired 3 to a flush board?

    I dont think Villain is going to value shove Ax here as its caught up with some AX that it had kicker problems against. If he has floated or turned what was a value hand into a bluff then well played Villain with this board run out let him have it.
    I dont think Villain is going to value shove Ax here as its caught up with some AX that it had kicker problems against. If he has floated or turned what was a value hand into a bluff then well played Villain with this board run out let him have it i dont understand this exactly my friend what do you mean??
    11-21-2015 , 01:08 PM
    pre-2.8k
    flop-3.2k
    turn-4.8k
    river-call/jam
    11-21-2015 , 05:16 PM
    Don't give free cards. It's practically a fundamental law.
    11-21-2015 , 07:28 PM
    THANKS GUYSS
    11-28-2015 , 07:15 AM
    On the river you're beyond the top of your range (given that the turn should have been a bet), so what hands do you get here with that you call if not this?

    If everything should be a fold, then any hand of his can be a bet, and if any hand of his can be a bet, then it's clearly wrong to fold everything, so you need to find an equilibrium. That's what people are talking about when saying you should at least call the top of your range in (almost) any situation.
    11-29-2015 , 12:28 PM
    Yeah, I guess you could get a feel for what LektorAJ's saying by that period of time when HSNLers were talking about merged ranges. Late mid oughts-'10 I think? Should be some decent stuff in the archives.

          
    m