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Final table medium-stack BB call vs SB Final table medium-stack BB call vs SB

09-17-2014 , 10:37 AM
Final table of a $0.50 360man.

I know villain is shoving very close to any2, probably any2.

In cEV mode obvious is a easy call, but in $EV I should be calling with only 10%, and K4o is very negative.

The thing is that this villain is abusing (correctly I suppose), so if I keep folding, I will, in the majority of time, getting 5° place when both shorts lost. But if I take the negative $EV here and double up, I will get a lot of +$EV shoves later.

How you guys are playing this? Calling with a very negative $EV here? Or just follow ICM and keep folding?

Just a note: if I fold and wait for the shorts lost I'll go from 7° to 5° and win about 7.5bi more, but I'll probably have only 3 bb or less.

PokerStars - $0.45+$0.05|5000/10000 Ante 1000 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 7,920
CO: 6,072
BTN: 138,578
SB: 122,794
Hero (BB): 51,456
UTG: 113,163
UTG+1: 100,017

7 players post ante of 1,000, SB posts SB 5,000, Hero posts BB 10,000

Pre Flop: (pot: 22,000) Hero has 4 K

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 121,794 and is all-in, Hero ???
09-17-2014 , 01:33 PM
Not happy about getting shorter and shorter, but given there are two stacks under 1BB, this is a suicide. Even if they double up, you will still have bigger stacks than them and even with 3.5BBs, many things can happen, if you know what I mean
09-18-2014 , 10:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yottas
Final table of a $0.50 360man.
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In cEV mode obvious is a easy call, but in $EV I should be calling with only 10%, and K4o is very negative.

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How you guys are playing this? Calling with a very negative $EV here? Or just follow ICM and keep folding?
The icm with Nash view is more like call with the top 30% and I think I would need more like top 20% as it is easily possible that the SB is not on the Nash ATC here.

There isn't much you can do, if you do clash with one of the big stacks you are giving lots of $ev so effectively money mostly to the micro stacks. Just fold and keep thinking through the situations as they come up.

Last edited by BaseMetal2; 09-18-2014 at 10:28 AM.
09-18-2014 , 11:08 AM
fold

      
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