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12-20-2012 , 08:51 PM
    Poker Stars, $13.77 Buy-in (500/1,000 blinds, 100 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 7 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #15084571

    grausas (MP1): 9,402 (9.4 bb)
    BigBadBluff4 (MP2): 11,480 (11.5 bb)
    atditod13425 (MP3): 22,840 (22.8 bb)
    Hero (CO): 19,263 (19.3 bb)
    MoViN.tArGeT (BTN): 18,042 (18 bb)
    ariejan1988 (SB): 5,528 (5.5 bb)
    TANJOUR (BB): 9,233 (9.2 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with K A
    2 folds, atditod13425 raises to 2,000, Hero raises to 4,333, MoViN.tArGeT raises to 17,942 and is all-in, 2 folds, atditod13425 raises to 22,740 and is all-in, Hero calls 14,830 and is all-in

    Flop: (58,468) 7 8 4 (3 players, 3 are all-in)
    Turn: (58,468) Q (3 players, 3 are all-in)
    River: (58,468) 5 (3 players, 3 are all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: 58,468 pot
    Final Board: 7 8 4 Q 5
    atditod13425 showed A A and won 58,468 (39,205 net)
    Hero showed K A and lost (-19,263 net)
    MoViN.tArGeT showed J K and lost (-18,042 net)



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    End of a 20 hour session for supernova. I think a cold 4 bet range is needed vs 2 regs although this was a terrible spot. Felt he was polarized with no ak in his range there was no one to induce I probably do this 1 in 500k hands and folding out jj maybe qq to original raiser. Thoughts? wanted to test posting a hand never really did it before and show you all how spewy i am (call me)
    12-20-2012 , 09:04 PM
    Wow. This is nice if the regs in question are playing back at each other a lot. Little bit on the high variance side though, I would probably just fold, especially if players acting after you are easy to steal from.
    And yes, I'm guessing any decent player would muck JJ from MP3 there (not so sure about QQ)... CO probably isn't that light, as he needs to show his hands against SB/BB some of the time.

    Anyway, A* for interest and effort!
    12-21-2012 , 12:51 AM
    Not SN yet? ;o

    Ontopic, wp gambler.
    12-21-2012 , 02:52 AM
    i click buttons bro played like 6 months this year ez game
    12-21-2012 , 03:33 AM
    hm ok, ya i got like 30k vpp this month and prob grind less than you so kinda figured you'd already had it like easily.

    Don't know your grinding history though.

    Gonna donate some monies again tonight?
    12-21-2012 , 09:29 AM
    Who´s the HERO on the hand? :P
    12-21-2012 , 03:27 PM
    pushordie did this to spite him in skype chat =[. I only needed 10000 vpp's this month so I barely grinded last few I got 20k or over. Not like im donating to you don because I win like every flip vs you~~
    12-21-2012 , 04:21 PM
    Yeah but losing flips to you gives me the karma to bink mtts later on, so it's cool
    12-21-2012 , 10:05 PM
    Need a read on CO that he can 3bet light 20bb effective. Many regs can't and won't, and a small 3bet this shallow is always their mega value range. It is also true that the blinds stack sizes will shave a heap of bluffs out of COs range.

    That said, if you have that read you might as well be doing it with 87s, too.

    A for heart, D for execution.
    12-21-2012 , 11:14 PM
    I'm confused, why don't we just 3-bet jam pre?

    EDIT: oh, I guess OP isn't hero in that HH. Seems like a pretty bad spot to ship the KJs there w/o weird reads. Who actually min3bets with under 20bbs and worse than KJs or with any intent to fold ever?
    12-22-2012 , 08:58 PM
    Well it looked polarized most players just shove ak here not induce 1 regular.
    12-23-2012 , 12:07 PM
    Nice image post bro
    12-23-2012 , 02:23 PM
    I think if hero 3bets at a high% then shipping kjs is legit. U just got to learn to hit. If he's a nitty 3better like most 180 regs then fold. Stack sizes seem perfect for this play tho.
    12-25-2012 , 06:56 AM
    how many tables and which limits did you play in this 20h period? I also have like 4.7k VPPs left and want to grind as few days as possible for reaching SN. Therefore it would be nice to know how many VPPs you made in this monster session.
    12-25-2012 , 10:22 AM
    1k vpps is bout standard for like 8-10 hours primetime so just play everyday if you can. I think if you push it 2k is doable but it depends how much it will screw you up for the next day. Theres really only like 14-15 hours worth playing even if your throwing in like every tourney I was playing cash games for half of this ~~
    12-25-2012 , 01:56 PM
    wut? when I reg a std session from 6pm til 1am, I make like 1.2k VPPs, while 40 tabling sngs up to 15fos and turbo mtts up to 75! hmmmm...

    last sunday I regged from 3pm til 1am, 10 hours, and made almost 2k VPPs.
    12-25-2012 , 07:10 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by wackyradish
    wut? when I reg a std session from 6pm til 1am, I make like 1.2k VPPs, while 40 tabling sngs up to 15fos and turbo mtts up to 75! hmmmm...

    last sunday I regged from 3pm til 1am, 10 hours, and made almost 2k VPPs.
    nice gg wp
    12-25-2012 , 08:31 PM
    I think Moving target happily jams JJ+, AK(maybe AQ) then atditod ISO with AK and QQ+ so its difficult to put in AK vs them both cos its either flipping or crushed so I wouldn't mind a fold to wait for a better spot as you got enough chips. If you have reads they are pretty crazy and don't know ranges and can jam worse then I just get it in.

    Looking at your position I think best move is to just 3bet ship as your small 3bet from CO will probably be considered as a lot of strength so wouldn't induce that much action from worse hands, instead a ship may get calls from AQ or AJ if you're lucky.
    12-25-2012 , 08:51 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by xsptx
    I think Moving target happily jams JJ+, AK(maybe AQ) ... long text...
    i think he jams KJs KQo maybe AA

          
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