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01-09-2012, 02:27 AM
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newbie
Join Date: Nov 2009
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Critique My Hands (New MTT Player)
Hi, I've been a reader of 2p2 for a while now and I want to start utilizing the forums to improve my game. I'm a semi-recreational/losing player but I want to change that and start taking my game more seriously.
I enjoy playing 45man MTT's so have decided that this is where I'll start my grind (50c games). I'll be using this thread to post my trouble hands after each session and hopefully get some input on them.
Thanks 
From my 1st session, after going through my hands I noticed these iffy shoves, to me they look like mistakes, should I wait for better spots?
Poker Stars, $0.45 Buy-in (300/600 blinds, 50 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11573242
MP: 5,868 (9.8 bb)
CO: 18,512 (30.9 bb)
BTN: 8,568 (14.3 bb)
SB: 25,351 (42.3 bb)
BB: 4,461 (7.4 bb)
Hero (UTG): 4,740 (7.9 bb)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with 4  4 
Hero raises to 4,690 and is all-in, MP raises to 5,818 and is all-in, 4 folds
Flop: (10,580) 3  2 J (2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: (10,580) Q (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: (10,580) A  (2 players, 2 are all-in)
Poker Stars, $0.45 Buy-in (100/200 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 7 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11573252
BB: 1,185 (5.9 bb)
MP1: 2,315 (11.6 bb)
MP2: 1,006 (5 bb)
MP3: 5,498 (27.5 bb)
CO: 6,194 (31 bb)
Hero (BTN): 2,255 (11.3 bb)
SB: 4,720 (23.6 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BTN with 6 A
4 folds, Hero raises to 2,255 and is all-in, SB calls 2,155, BB folds
Flop: (4,710) 2 2 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: (4,710) 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: (4,710) 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Poker Stars, $0.45 Buy-in (400/800 blinds, 50 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11573262
BB: 8,320 (10.4 bb)
UTG+1: 13,190 (16.5 bb)
UTG+2: 7,760 (9.7 bb)
MP1: 4,155 (5.2 bb)
MP2: 6,615 (8.3 bb)
MP3: 9,790 (12.2 bb)
CO: 2,680 (3.4 bb)
Hero (BTN): 1,080 (1.4 bb)
SB: 13,910 (17.4 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BTN with J 7
6 folds, Hero raises to 1,030 and is all-in, SB calls 630, BB calls 230
Flop: (3,540) 4 Q 6 (3 players, 1 is all-in)
SB checks, BB checks
Turn: (3,540) 3 (3 players, 1 is all-in)
SB checks, BB checks
River: (3,540) 2 (3 players, 1 is all-in)
SB checks, BB checks
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01-09-2012, 05:58 AM
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old hand
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Shut Eye Country
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Re: Critique My Hands (New MTT Player)
All of these are good shoves.
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01-09-2012, 07:23 AM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Auckland
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Re: Critique My Hands (New MTT Player)
confirmed all fine/standard
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01-09-2012, 01:13 PM
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banned
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Brazil
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Re: Critique My Hands (New MTT Player)
all standard, you can try limp/shove on btn to have like 0.1% FE on the J7o hand but it's all fine.
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01-09-2012, 08:34 PM
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newbie
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Australia
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Re: Critique My Hands (New MTT Player)
Thanks, it's good to know i'm doing it right :P
What about this... should I have checked the flop?
Poker Stars, $0.45 Buy-in (25/50 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 7 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11574332
BB: 3,040 (60.8 bb)
MP1: 1,445 (28.9 bb)
Hero (MP2): 1,425 (28.5 bb)
MP3: 3,780 (75.6 bb)
CO: 1,440 (28.8 bb)
BTN: 1,045 (20.9 bb)
SB: 1,325 (26.5 bb)
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A T
MP1 folds, Hero raises to 150, MP3 calls 150, CO folds, BTN calls 150, SB calls 125, BB folds
Flop: (650) 9 4 7 (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets 390, MP3 folds, BTN raises to 895 and is all-in, SB folds, Hero calls 505
Turn: (2,440) 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: (2,440) 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
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01-09-2012, 08:44 PM
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banned
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Brazil
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Re: Critique My Hands (New MTT Player)
nah just go broke here, too much equity.
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01-09-2012, 10:43 PM
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newbie
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Australia
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Re: Critique My Hands (New MTT Player)
Could you explain a bit more please
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01-10-2012, 12:46 AM
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grinder
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: peering over a well w/ a hose
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Re: Critique My Hands (New MTT Player)
you have over cards and the nut flush draw, their range is very top pair heavy, not many two pairs not many sets some combo draws. random idiotic spaz's. against these hands, with the chips already in the pot, you stick all your chips in.
this is the logic behind it right?
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01-10-2012, 03:16 AM
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newbie
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Australia
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Re: Critique My Hands (New MTT Player)
Yeah, didn't think that in-depth though. I know I couldn't fold to the shove because of odds, but I was just wondering if I could have played the hand differently.
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01-10-2012, 05:46 AM
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centurion
Join Date: May 2009
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Hand 1 is close -UTG I maybe shove 77+, KTs+, A9o+, A7s+
Plus this appears to be the FT (of a 45 man) and you can afford to wait for a better spot
Hand 2 & 3 are fine
Hand 4 is ok as well. You have enough equity plus essentially doubling here at this point in the tourney will put you in a good position as it progresses into the later stages
Last edited by kingpin_co; 01-10-2012 at 05:58 AM.
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01-12-2012, 10:13 PM
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newbie
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Australia
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Re: Critique My Hands (New MTT Player)
Converter isn't working for me 
This was in the money, I think it's the right play but i'm not sure, I got out the next hand with 9's
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 0.5 Tournament, 600/1200 Blinds 75 Ante (7 handed) - PokerStars Hand Converter from HandHistoryConverter.com
SB (t8864)
Hero (BB) (t16279)
UTG (t3795)
MP1 (t14305)
MP2 (t7571)
CO (t8960)
Button (t7726)
Hero's M: 7.00
Preflop: Hero is BB with Q , Q
UTG bets t3720 (All-In), 2 folds, CO calls t3720, 2 folds, Hero raises to t16204 (All-In), CO calls t5165 (All-In)
Flop: (t22615) 7 , 2 , K (3 players, 3 all-in)
Turn: (t22615) 8 (3 players, 3 all-in)
River: (t22615) 9 (3 players, 3 all-in)
Total pot: t22615
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01-12-2012, 10:39 PM
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banned
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Brazil
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Re: Critique My Hands (New MTT Player)
very standard play
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01-14-2012, 12:50 AM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: DOS!
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Re: Critique My Hands (New MTT Player)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jenglot
Hi, I've been a reader of 2p2 for a while now and I want to start utilizing the forums to improve my game. I'm a semi-recreational/losing player but I want to change that and start taking my game more seriously.
I enjoy playing 45man MTT's so have decided that this is where I'll start my grind (50c games). I'll be using this thread to post my trouble hands after each session and hopefully get some input on them.
Thanks
From my 1st session, after going through my hands I noticed these iffy shoves, to me they look like mistakes, should I wait for better spots?
Poker Stars, $0.45 Buy-in (300/600 blinds, 50 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11573242
MP: 5,868 (9.8 bb)
CO: 18,512 (30.9 bb)
BTN: 8,568 (14.3 bb)
SB: 25,351 (42.3 bb)
BB: 4,461 (7.4 bb)
Hero (UTG): 4,740 (7.9 bb)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with 4 4
Hero raises to 4,690 and is all-in, MP raises to 5,818 and is all-in, 4 folds
Flop: (10,580) 3 2 J (2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: (10,580) Q (2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: (10,580) A (2 players, 2 are all-in)
shove
Poker Stars, $0.45 Buy-in (100/200 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 7 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11573252
BB: 1,185 (5.9 bb)
MP1: 2,315 (11.6 bb)
MP2: 1,006 (5 bb)
MP3: 5,498 (27.5 bb)
CO: 6,194 (31 bb)
Hero (BTN): 2,255 (11.3 bb)
SB: 4,720 (23.6 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BTN with 6 A
4 folds, Hero raises to 2,255 and is all-in, SB calls 2,155, BB folds
Flop: (4,710) 2 2 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: (4,710) 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: (4,710) 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
shove mostly.
Poker Stars, $0.45 Buy-in (400/800 blinds, 50 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #11573262
BB: 8,320 (10.4 bb)
UTG+1: 13,190 (16.5 bb)
UTG+2: 7,760 (9.7 bb)
MP1: 4,155 (5.2 bb)
MP2: 6,615 (8.3 bb)
MP3: 9,790 (12.2 bb)
CO: 2,680 (3.4 bb)
Hero (BTN): 1,080 (1.4 bb)
SB: 13,910 (17.4 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BTN with J 7
6 folds, Hero raises to 1,030 and is all-in, SB calls 630, BB calls 230
Flop: (3,540) 4 Q 6 (3 players, 1 is all-in)
SB checks, BB checks
Turn: (3,540) 3 (3 players, 1 is all-in)
SB checks, BB checks
River: (3,540) 2 (3 players, 1 is all-in)
SB checks, BB checks
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01-18-2012, 02:34 AM
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newbie
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Australia
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Re: Critique My Hands (New MTT Player)
Poker Stars $0.45+$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds - 9 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter
MP2: t1500 75 BBs
Hero (CO): t1490 74.50 BBs
BTN: t1470 73.50 BBs
SB: t1480 74 BBs
BB: t1530 76.50 BBs
UTG: t1500 75 BBs
UTG+1: t1530 76.50 BBs
UTG+2: t1500 75 BBs
MP1: t1500 75 BBs
Pre Flop: (t30) Hero is CO with K A
2 folds, UTG+2 raises to t60, 2 folds, Hero raises to t141, 2 folds, BB calls t121, UTG+2 calls t81
Flop: (t433) 6 A J (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+2 checks, Hero bets t346, BB folds, UTG+2 raises to t1359 all in, Hero folds
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01-18-2012, 04:15 AM
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old hand
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: The Church of Paul Lambert
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Re: Critique My Hands (New MTT Player)
3 bet more pre 180ish. 3x the opening raise early on is about right imo.
I would bet a bit less on the flop and call the shove. Random players are getting it in with all kinds of ax here at micro stakes, you are getting 2 to 1 on the call. You have the best hand here way more than 1 in 3 times.
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