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Bubble - 45mans - Profitable 3b shove or not?

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01-25-2014 , 06:38 AM

andreas_

newbie

Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 18

Hello

Villain was a reg, quite loose, I could say was raising about 20% pre. Although Im not sure about his exact call vs 3b range, I would assume JJ+, AQ+.

So is putting max ICM pressure profitable vs his raise with so many shortstacks or not?

Poker Stars, $13.78 Buy-in (400/800 blinds, 50 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #22684881

UTG+2: 2,855 (3.6 bb)
MP1: 16,705 (20.9 bb)
MP2: 15,971 (20 bb)
MP3: 4,256 (5.3 bb)
Hero (CO): 13,832 (17.3 bb)
BTN: 4,090 (5.1 bb)
SB: 3,446 (4.3 bb)
BB: 6,345 (7.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with K

2 folds, MP2 raises to 1,600, MP3 folds, Hero raises to 13,782 and is all-in

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01-25-2014 , 07:42 AM

taipan168

old hand

Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,740

Don't really like this one against a big stack that has you covered. If YOU had the raiser covered I think it'd be a different story, at least psychologically for Villain if not ICM-wise. Plus if you get called, with KQ you're usually hosed by his calling range.

01-25-2014 , 09:36 AM

fidstar-poker

I'm gonna need a hacksaw

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 32,991

fold this one.

01-26-2014 , 05:19 PM

Longy2

journeyman

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 204

It can't be that bad, a concrete read on villian would sway my decision to shove quite a bit. How ICM aware they are and how often are they opening.

01-27-2014 , 02:36 AM

emitnulB

veteran

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 3,444

just call...

shove and fold are both horrible imo.

01-27-2014 , 03:37 AM

dguia

adept

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 789

Quote:

Originally Posted by emitnulB

just call...

shove and fold are both horrible imo.

Do we call again if one of the three left shoves?? Because if they are competent enough they should gii with a big part of their range...

I'm folding this one

01-27-2014 , 05:07 AM

emitnulB

veteran

Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 3,444

We call if the big stack folds and fold if he doesn't.

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