AK in sb facing a button raise - MTTSNG -- Two Plus Two Poker Forums

zloty · 07-06-2012, 10:55 PM

Obviously I played this terribly but I was looking for advice on the best play here. 3 bet or flat? Thanks in advance.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 1.5 Tournament, 15/30 Blinds (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB (t1470)
UTG (t2340)
UTG+1 (t1710)
MP1 (t845)
MP2 (t1205)
MP3 (t1715)
CO (t1510)
Button (t1545)
Hero (SB) (t1160)

Hero's M: 25.78

Preflop: Hero is SB with A

, K

3 folds, MP2 calls t30, 2 folds, Button bets t120, Hero raises to t1160 (All-In), 2 folds, Button calls t1040

Flop: (t2380) 2

, J

, Q

(2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: (t2380) J

(2 players, 1 all-in)

River: (t2380) 8

(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: t2380

Robinho2611 · 07-07-2012, 02:16 AM

You didn't play this terribly!
Though I prefer making a big 3-bet and then opening shoving any flop for ~PSB.
Bet say... 350.

MangoBall · 07-07-2012, 05:36 AM

Id play the same way even though most of his hands are very strong. Or low pocket pairs that they call with and you'll be flipping with.

DaRook1e · 07-07-2012, 05:45 AM

It's not a bad play just prolly not optimal. flatting might be better. The reason is that in 1st and 2nd level your shove will be called by any pair down to 44 or even 22 which might be the case with the limper from MP2. Actually, he is the main concern in the hand and you should be careful with such limpers who either slow play Aces, or limp with low to middle pocket pairs and call such shoves very easy. I used to play the way you did but I think I flip too often for my entire stack that early which is not optimal as I consider myself for a decent player (lol).
I would flat here the raise and will behappy to play 3 way because if I flop a pair I can extract value even OOP. If I do not hit the board than easy fold and look ahead with healthy stack.

The Observer · 07-07-2012, 05:45 AM

nh, wp, sometimes I flat as well.

zloty · 07-07-2012, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaRook1e

It's not a bad play just prolly not optimal. flatting might be better. The reason is that in 1st and 2nd level your shove will be called by any pair down to 44 or even 22 which might be the case with the limper from MP2. Actually, he is the main concern in the hand and you should be careful with such limpers who either slow play Aces, or limp with low to middle pocket pairs and call such shoves very easy. I used to play the way you did but I think I flip too often for my entire stack that early which is not optimal as I consider myself for a decent player (lol).
I would flat here the raise and will behappy to play 3 way because if I flop a pair I can extract value even OOP. If I do not hit the board than easy fold and look ahead with healthy stack.

That's what i was thinking, is it too early in the tournament to be be putting my entire stack on the line with AK? The only hand I can realistically beat is AQ.

Robinho2611 · 07-07-2012, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaRook1e

It's not a bad play just prolly not optimal. flatting might be better. The reason is that in 1st and 2nd level your shove will be called by any pair down to 44 or even 22 which might be the case with the limper from MP2. Actually, he is the main concern in the hand and you should be careful with such limpers who either slow play Aces, or limp with low to middle pocket pairs and call such shoves very easy. I used to play the way you did but I think I flip too often for my entire stack that early which is not optimal as I consider myself for a decent player (lol).
I would flat here the raise and will behappy to play 3 way because if I flop a pair I can extract value even OOP. If I do not hit the board than easy fold and look ahead with healthy stack.

Why are we worried about fear of flipping? It's Button versus Blind. We have AK and 40BB. Surely our only concern here is which play is most likely to get him to play for all his chips. We flip against some hands.... but we are ahead of his opening range - and even his raise-calling range!
I 3-bet because I think this increases the chance of him putting more chips into the pot.