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07-24-2015 , 12:51 PM
    Poker Stars, $0.45 Buy-in (500/1,000 blinds, 60 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37027256

    SB: 2,541 (2.5 bb)
    BB: 8,922 (8.9 bb)
    Hero (UTG+1): 5,118 (5.1 bb)
    UTG+2: 10,430 (10.4 bb)
    MP1: 4,936 (4.9 bb)
    MP2: 11,784 (11.8 bb)
    MP3: 8,637 (8.6 bb)
    CO: 11,288 (11.3 bb)
    BTN: 3,844 (3.8 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 9 7
    Hero folds, UTG+2 raises to 2,000, 7 folds




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    45men, i guess this is most likely a fold, but should i still stick to jennifear chart? i dont really understand icm in spots like this.

    What if we were 6 players? so i was itm and stacks ratio was about the same, should my shovin range still be different?
    07-24-2015 , 02:56 PM
    It depends. On the one hand you have the bubble-fear factor when you shove here which tightens down calling ranges if you shove. On the other hand, you lose a lot less equity if your shove gets called and you loose once ITM.

    It all depends, on some tables people will go crazy once ITM and just root for first, on the other the shortys still try to outlast each other.

    With that said I fold here, because its a 0.5$ tournament and people will call way too wide, so there is no need to take a -ev shove to remain folding equity when there will be huge ICM mistakes happening by the other players which will give you tons of equity just by sitting there and waiting.
    07-28-2015 , 04:27 AM
    If people are playing properly then under ICM conditions the shoving ranges aren't miles away from charts without ICM, but the calling ranges are much tighter. But if people are likely to call too loose then you need to play much tighter.

    TBH against this opposition I'm not sure this is even a push regardless of ICM.
    07-28-2015 , 10:10 PM
    Fold
    07-29-2015 , 09:23 PM
    very good answers by Ronny mahony and LektorAJ. But Its 100% fold in this spot.

          
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