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Old 08-03-2012, 07:26 AM   #1
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8/180s utg play

    Poker Stars, $7.34 Buy-in (600/1,200 blinds, 125 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13651202

    BTN: 4,830 (4 bb)
    SB: 24,351 (20.3 bb)
    BB: 7,959 (6.6 bb)
    Hero (UTG): 39,951 (33.3 bb)
    MP: 22,875 (19.1 bb)
    CO: 16,087 (13.4 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG with K 7
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    What hand is bottom of our r/c range vs shorts?
    8/180 semi
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    Old 08-03-2012, 08:35 AM   #2
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    Re: 8/180s utg play

    depends how loose/tight u think they are.
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    Old 08-03-2012, 10:16 AM   #3
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    Re: 8/180s utg play

    orly?
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    Old 08-03-2012, 10:26 AM   #4
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    Re: 8/180s utg play

    i r/c the 4bb stack all day w/the stack you have.

    depends if you are itm or on the ft bubble but i personally open fairly wide here.

    a 4bb stack usually means hes folding too much and has let his stack dwindle down to nothing (or just lost a flip etc), either way, i dont mind opening light into him. chances are he is one of those guys who will fold until they are forced ai or pick up a good Ax or pp. if this is true of any player who is short stacked at your table, then you should abuse the table until he has doubled or is eliminated.

    other players, even good players, might not notice that the small stack is constantly folding. this is a good time to keep putting pressure on stacks who are trying to just relax, preserve chips for the ft.
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    Old 08-03-2012, 11:44 AM   #5
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    Re: 8/180s utg play

    raise, better sooted king def. good enough, middling sooted connects and offsuit broadways also apply
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    Old 08-03-2012, 06:01 PM   #6
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    Re: 8/180s utg play

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    depends how loose/tight u think they are.
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    i r/c the 4bb stack all day w/the stack you have.

    depends if you are itm or on the ft bubble but i personally open fairly wide here.

    a 4bb stack usually means hes folding too much and has let his stack dwindle down to nothing (or just lost a flip etc), either way, i dont mind opening light into him. chances are he is one of those guys who will fold until they are forced ai or pick up a good Ax or pp. if this is true of any player who is short stacked at your table, then you should abuse the table until he has doubled or is eliminated.

    other players, even good players, might not notice that the small stack is constantly folding. this is a good time to keep putting pressure on stacks who are trying to just relax, preserve chips for the ft.
    +1
    U should considered opening hands ur willing to call shorties with, basically with 4bb whenever ur opening ur priced in to call either way
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    Old 08-03-2012, 07:29 PM   #7
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    I'm opening absurdly wide here and calling off BTN and BB, folding to the others. Not sure about a range, it would be quite fluid based on gameflow. All Broadway's and most Ks, many Qs and Js, all Ax, pps, and basically anything that looks pretty.

    We are taking it down pre so often, and even if we get it in we are getting a huge overlay against micro stacks considering pot size pre. Even if we lose, it does not change the functionality of our stack (we don't need to switch gears). Keep applying pressure, nh!

    Last edited by Aliquantum; 08-03-2012 at 07:55 PM. Reason: Pretty much plo ufo's post *high-five*
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    Old 08-04-2012, 10:23 AM   #8
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    Re: 8/180s utg play

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    orly?
    Lol, yes ofc - keep playing lolstandardbaddefaultlolranges
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    Old 08-04-2012, 11:02 AM   #9
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    Re: 8/180s utg play

    depends on how active the table is...
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    Old 08-04-2012, 12:53 PM   #10
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    Re: 8/180s utg play

    In before someone posts a 3D pie chart suggesting this is a shove.

    Yea obv MR at some tables, fold at others.
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    Old 08-04-2012, 04:44 PM   #11
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    ^ lol.
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    Old 08-05-2012, 05:19 PM   #12
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    Re: 8/180s utg play

    ty guys,

    very helpful..
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    Re: 8/180s utg play

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    What hand is bottom of our r/c range vs shorts?
    8/180 semi
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    ty guys,

    very helpful..
    At some tables the optimal bottom hand of your R/C range should be 23o. Does that help?
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    Old 08-06-2012, 04:03 AM   #14
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    Re: 8/180s utg play

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    ty guys,

    very helpful..
    ironic, isnt it?
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    Re: 8/180s utg play

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    ty guys,

    very helpful..
    you just dont understand that there is no answer to your question.
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