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09-16-2014 , 04:24 AM

L3goH3ad

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 207

I assume we are folding here? Have to admit i'm pretty clueless as to what i should be getting in here because the flat looks so strong. Shortie is a reg and so is the caller if this helps. Thanks.

Poker Stars, $7.34 Buy-in (1,500/3,000 blinds, 300 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #30664591

UTG+2: 16,391 (5.5 bb)
MP1: 10,714 (3.6 bb)
MP2: 56,679 (18.9 bb)
MP3: 28,804 (9.6 bb)
CO: 21,600 (7.2 bb)
BTN: 50,886 (17 bb)
SB: 52,496 (17.5 bb)
Hero (BB): 32,430 (10.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q

UTG+2 folds, MP1 raises to 10,414 and is all-in, MP2 calls 10,414, 5 folds

Flop: (27,728) T

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: (27,728) 6

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: (27,728) 5

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

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09-16-2014 , 05:52 AM

BubbleNedRum

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 249

if we would be a bit deeper we could think about a shove since the flatter could fold a ton of hands with good equity against KQo like small - medium pockets and weak Ax.
but without fold equity i prefer a fold

09-16-2014 , 06:01 PM

onlinepokerwiz

banned

Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 380

Im obviously folding this, shoving KQo into 2 players with virtually no FE is not a good idea imo

09-17-2014 , 03:02 AM

flushje

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 354

Personally, I think this is actually close. MP1 would be jamming super wide and the caller would obv know this. There is a ton in the middle also.

Would love to hear other responses.

09-17-2014 , 04:18 AM

L3goH3ad

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 207

Thanks guys, i agree re: the fold equity. If we had another 10-12k i would go with this i think.

09-17-2014 , 04:43 AM

BubbleNedRum

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 249

Quote:

Originally Posted by flushje

Personally, I think this is actually close. MP1 would be jamming super wide and the caller would obv know this. There is a ton in the middle also.

Would love to hear other responses.

i think we can ask ourselves what we would have done if MP2 had repushed (because we have no FE)
if the answer is fold, we have to fold the KQ, if the answer is call we have to call here.

09-18-2014 , 11:13 AM

Fantomaaas

newbie

Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 49

Would only jam this if I knew that mp2 is the type of player who is flatting (very) wide...so he will maybe even fold sometimes to our jam or if he never folds, he will have to call with hands we dominate, like: Kx,Qx...and if we are not favorite, we will mostly not have a very bad equity with our holding. KQ isnt that bad vs Ax and most pockets.

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