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 180 - calling range?  180 - calling range?

07-31-2014 , 04:09 AM
Just wondered what people's calling range would be here. The opener is running 7/7/0 over 90 hands and the re shover is a reg i don't know much about but stats are 17/15/7. I got AQo in and was pretty happy about it but now i'm not so sure? Thanks in advance


    Poker Stars, $7.34 Buy-in (150/300 blinds, 25 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #29271521

    CO: 1,755 (5.9 bb)
    Hero (BTN): 3,393 (11.3 bb)
    SB: 9,363 (31.2 bb)
    BB: 3,260 (10.9 bb)
    UTG+1: 3,900 (13 bb)
    UTG+2: 8,227 (27.4 bb)
    MP1: 2,360 (7.9 bb)
    MP2: 3,090 (10.3 bb)
    MP3: 3,720 (12.4 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with A Q
    UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises to 630, 2 folds, MP3 raises to 3,695 and is all-in, CO folds, Hero calls 3,368 and is all-in, 2 folds, UTG+2 calls 3,065

    Flop: (11,433) T 7 Q (3 players, 2 are all-in)
    Turn: (11,433) J (3 players, 2 are all-in)
    River: (11,433) J (3 players, 2 are all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: 11,433 pot
    Final Board: T 7 Q J J
    Hero showed A Q and lost (-3,393 net)
    UTG+2 showed A A and won 11,433 (7,713 net)
    MP3 showed 6 6 and lost (-3,720 net)



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    07-31-2014 , 09:45 AM
    standard, would play the same way.
    07-31-2014 , 10:33 AM
    cant' fold AQo here.
    07-31-2014 , 11:19 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by fidstar-poker
    cant' fold AQo here.
    I immediately regret this decision, but its standard play.
    07-31-2014 , 11:30 AM
    Getting it in with AQo in this spot, think my gii range would be 88+ AJs+ AQo+, might fold AJs as its close to a break even play and could prob find a better spot, AQo def good to go though, hope this is of help, gl
    08-01-2014 , 06:42 AM
    Thanks folks, much appreciated
    08-02-2014 , 11:22 AM
    You don't want to 3bet shove light 7/7/0 players, especially when they are raising from EP. MP3 being a reg should be aware of that and adjust his reshove range accordingly. So I dont think you doing very well against his 3bet shove range. And if UTG+2 calls too(which happens very often here imo) AQ is in trouble. My calling range here wouldn't be wider than TT+; AK
    08-02-2014 , 02:48 PM
    happy to flip vs MP3 , UTG+2 7/7/0 is still to act though and we are definitely crushed 100% of the time 3 way if he decide to come along.

    this is a really difficult fold with 11BB but I think it is a fold.
    08-06-2014 , 01:17 PM
    I think it is very suspicious when 7/7/0 with 12bb from UTG+2 just open he is more likely to shove everything other than top range. I think he is never folding and when the reg comes in I think this is close fold.
    08-06-2014 , 03:52 PM
    AK, JJ+
    08-06-2014 , 05:18 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by rusa
    I think it is very suspicious when 7/7/0 with 12bb from UTG+2 just open he is more likely to shove everything other than top range. I think he is never folding and when the reg comes in I think this is close fold.
    shove almost 30bb?

    To me the reg shoving doesn't really effect my decision at all.
    08-06-2014 , 05:54 PM
    AQo is nuts here(considering the stacksize and action) and it's not even close. Never folding, calling all day long. I might consider folding if there were 2 or more 10bb+ reshove.
    08-07-2014 , 05:40 AM
    I wonder how profitable a play should be(in terms of BBs) to qualify as a "fist-pump", "snap", ''hi-five your monitor", "not even close" etc; 3bbs? 2bbs? 1bb? 0.5bb?

    In this spot calling with AQo is worth whooping 1-2bbs only when UTG+2 is raising something like A5+; 22+; KT+; and then calling a shove with 99+; AQ+; (It is possible of course but given information says otherwise: 7/7/0 over 90 hands).
    And imo mp3 can't be wider than 15% here, at least if he's a somewhat decent reg and sees an early position raise from tight player.

    So its pretty much never a super profitable spot. Closer to break even or slightly negative.
    08-07-2014 , 07:34 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by fidstar-poker
    shove almost 30bb?

    To me the reg shoving doesn't really effect my decision at all.
    My mistake,i thought that UTG+2 has 12bb and reg had 10bb. But again i think it is close because if the reg also knows that UTG+2 is 7/7/0 he is shoving knowing that he hasnt fold equity,so he must have some strong range there. I dont know if he would shove there weaker aces than AJs,ATs?
    08-07-2014 , 08:34 AM
    Folding AQ vs a nit and a re-shover there. Something like AK, JJ+ is probably wise there. A 7/7 opening from EP and a reg reshove means you're crushed most of the time. AQ looks like a hand that will bust us from the tournament.
    08-07-2014 , 03:39 PM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Corpsey
    Folding AQ vs a nit and a re-shover there. Something like AK, JJ+ is probably wise there. A 7/7 opening from EP and a reg reshove means you're crushed most of the time. AQ looks like a hand that will bust us from the tournament.
    +1

          
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