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05-01-2017 , 08:32 AM
The CO, which is a good reg, snaps my 3bet with AJs. I found this a rather loos call. ICM-wise. what do you guys think?

And is my 3bet ok?


PokerStars - 200/400 Ante 25 NL - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 9.3 BB (VPIP: 19.05, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 21)
CO: 20.53 BB (VPIP: 15.09, PFR: 14.01, 3Bet Preflop: 6.58, Hands: 395)
BTN: 22.44 BB (VPIP: 18.59, PFR: 15.68, 3Bet Preflop: 4.72, Hands: 631)
SB: 23.9 BB (VPIP: 15.86, PFR: 13.76, 3Bet Preflop: 5.39, Hands: 502)
Hero (BB): 21.31 BB

5 players post ante of 0.06 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.81 BB) Hero has 7 K

fold, CO raises to 2.1 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 21.25 BB and is all-in, CO calls 18.37 BB and is all-in

Flop: (41.74 BB, 2 players) 3 T 6

Turn: (41.74 BB, 2 players) 7

River: (41.74 BB, 2 players) 3
45man 10players left Quote
05-01-2017 , 08:40 AM
I think that here you should fold it

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05-01-2017 , 10:21 AM
His call seems fine, I think you should flat here with this hand but either way I can see either jam or flat depending on villain, folding is a mistake.

Last edited by ringo22; 05-01-2017 at 10:48 AM.
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05-01-2017 , 02:04 PM
Checked it with HRC final 2 tables ICM. Call is ok, if BB jams > 20%. But its really border line. Even when the BB jams nash (24%) AJs is only +0.30. He has such a good stack. I personally would fold AJs here.

agree with folding K7s is not the best option. I sometimes flat, sometimes 3bet.
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05-01-2017 , 04:10 PM
Jamming K7s here is really bad. You're shoving 21bbs with K7 suited. Why would you do that this deep? You beat almost nothing. This is pure a bingo shove imo.

You could just flat K7 preflop, see a cheap flop. You decide to put in your tournament life with K7s against a 'good' reg from the CO.

And him making the snapcall, must have got some sort of reasoning behind it.
You obv have some history against him with the 3xx hands on him, maybe you re-shoved lots of low/middle pocketpairs into him, or just in general are shoving very wide against him?

Also. +0.30 is a slamdunk for any decent reg at these games.

Last edited by Pooportunity; 05-01-2017 at 04:17 PM.
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05-02-2017 , 05:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pooportunity
Jamming K7s here is really bad. You're shoving 21bbs with K7 suited. Why would you do that this deep? You beat almost nothing. This is pure a bingo shove imo.
Its obv a 3bet bluff with blocker and not a value 3bet. Cant be that bad as its just a nash reship.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pooportunity
You could just flat K7 preflop, see a cheap flop. You decide to put in your tournament life with K7s against a 'good' reg from the CO.
Yes, i agree with the first part. And i often do. But the second part actually favors a shove, cause you take away most of the "good" reg edge against me. Also negating his position. And there are a lot of regs, who dont call 3bets wide enough. This one obv does. Plus there is def some ICM going on here, and being the one who goes allin with tons of FE has its merits imho.

ps. +.3 edge is good. but thats only when i reship nash (around 25%). Which i do. But villain cant know that in 300 hands. Chances are far greater villain is just playing mostly in chip ev mode, where it is a slam dunk call vs me.

Last edited by Leia Amidala; 05-02-2017 at 05:34 AM.
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05-02-2017 , 07:02 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leia Amidala
Its obv a 3bet bluff with blocker and not a value 3bet. Cant be that bad as its just a nash reship.


Yes, i agree with the first part. And i often do. But the second part actually favors a shove, cause you take away most of the "good" reg edge against me. Also negating his position. And there are a lot of regs, who dont call 3bets wide enough. This one obv does. Plus there is def some ICM going on here, and being the one who goes allin with tons of FE has its merits imho.

ps. +.3 edge is good. but thats only when i reship nash (around 25%). Which i do. But villain cant know that in 300 hands. Chances are far greater villain is just playing mostly in chip ev mode, where it is a slam dunk call vs me.
Still Leia. I wouldn't want to 3B bluff there with from the BB with your entire stack. There's just to many combos he can call you with and be ahead.
Plus, you have such a nice stack to put pressure on people from better spots.

You also have to remind yourself that alot of these players at the 2.50's and 3.50's are not thinking on the level you're thinking. They don't study as much you do. They just see AJs and think they're good most of the time. So, shoving that wide from the BB is going to cost you in the long run.

Just flat it next time and jam with a tighter range.
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