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07-27-2014 , 09:45 PM
PokerStars - $13.77+$1.23|2000/4000 Ante 400 NL - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 16.85 BB (VPIP: 25.71, PFR: 9.68, 3Bet Preflop: 5.56, Hands: 35)
BB: 33.18 BB
Hero (BTN): 17.47 BB

3 players post ante of 0.1 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.8 BB) Hero has 4 4

Hero raises to 2 BB, SB raises to 16.75 BB and is all-in, fold, Hero calls 14.75 BB

Flop: (34.79 BB, 2 players) Q 2 T

Turn: (34.79 BB, 2 players) 5

River: (34.79 BB, 2 players) 7

Spoiler:
SB shows A T (One Pair, Tens) (Pre 47%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%)
Hero shows 4 4 (One Pair, Fours) (Pre 53%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)
SB wins 34.79 BB
07-27-2014 , 09:48 PM
I sigh and fold here. U are 50-50 at best
07-28-2014 , 03:01 AM
open jam pre. otherwise just fold it and dont open it at all.

why are we min raising this stack size? are we inducing with fours?
07-28-2014 , 06:49 AM
17 bb, open jam? the stacks are too deep

I open min win the blinds
I would fold if the chip leader shoves

Against the other guy, I'm okay flipping for 2/3rd position
winning this flip gives a good stack for heads up play
07-28-2014 , 03:59 PM
I dont think we turn a profit opening and then folding to shove from any of the two players 3 handed holding a pair with our 17 BB stack.

IF we shove, even BB will not have an easy call for ~ two third of his stack and would not want to loose his chiplead status calling it off with Q6o or something. All we really want with our fours is for both players to fold and we pick up the blinds. And if we do get called we will be in a flip most of the time. I would rather be jamming this first in to cash in on my fold equity while I still have it rather then mr/calling it.

both SB and BB should be 3b/shoving on your min raise super wide 3 handed with these stack sizes. specially BB since he should know you will fold most your range to his jam.
07-30-2014 , 07:29 PM
I'm with aboulleil on this one.

Consider what you would have done on the flop if you got called? Fold all flops that don't have a 4?
07-31-2014 , 01:36 AM
Trivial open-jam. You're printing money if we assume they call reasonably, AJ+, 66+.
07-31-2014 , 03:02 AM
Shove pre. Max ICM pressure.

      
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