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4.50$ 180 man FT 4 left, A10s on the btn 4.50$ 180 man FT 4 left, A10s on the btn

05-02-2015 , 05:04 PM
Hi all,

I think I played this hand horribly and would like your help on what would've been the ideal line.

Payouts are as follow :
1. 221.49$
2. 147.60$
3. 84.13$
4. 54.61$

Villain is a good reg.

What would be your line?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 4.5 Tournament, 1,000/2,000 Blinds 200 Ante (4 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

Hero (Button) (t75,940)
SB (t47,460)
BB (t33,890)
UTG (t112,710)

Hero's M: 19.98

Preflop: Hero is Button with 10, A
UTG raises to t4,000, Hero raises to t8,675, 2 folds, UTG calls t4,675

Flop: (t21,150) K, 4, 9 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets t8,979, UTG calls t8,979

Turn: (t39,108) 9 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: (t39,108) 4 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Total pot: t39,108
05-02-2015 , 05:42 PM
I like flatting pre, also if i were to 3-bet i think i'd make it bigger. Postflop seems fine.
05-03-2015 , 02:42 AM
I think was bio said above is spot on. Seems like you played it pretty well
05-03-2015 , 02:48 AM
4 handed, I like the 3 bet in position over flatting, but I agree I think the sizing is to small. The rest was fine.
05-03-2015 , 12:43 PM
Thank you for your feedbacks ! For the 3bet pre, maybe around ~11k/12k is better?

Maybe I'm being result oriented here but villain turned out to have 1010. Do you think a 2nd barrel here OTT would've been appropriate to make villain fold all his non Kx hands?
05-04-2015 , 01:38 AM
I think the flop bet was small and looked weak like a C bet. I think our only way to win the hand is to bet the turn, but the problem is, we are starting to get into territory where we are going to commit ourself to shoving the river on a 3 barrel bluff. I think maybe we play it like we did and just cut our losses. But, I would like a bigger preflop raise to 10,500ish maybe. And a bigger bet, at least half or a little more of the pot on the flop. I think both those bets were to small. If you are going to fire the turn, then you have to ship the river.
05-04-2015 , 04:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Showdown Fox
Thank you for your feedbacks ! For the 3bet pre, maybe around ~11k/12k is better?
This is too much IP. 10/10.2k. And I'm making it bigger because raising that spot is so std that you should put in a bit more to discourage 4-bets.
05-08-2015 , 02:39 PM
preflop: 3b to 10000-12000

flop: as played, check behind

turn: as played, ok

river: as played, ok
05-09-2015 , 01:48 PM
If villain is a good reg you can't 3bet NAI here.

And a good reg does not flat 1010 OOP to your 3bet here, so either he's a bad reg and the 3bet is fine or he's a good reg and the 3bet is bad.
05-09-2015 , 02:21 PM
Unless you have a read that he only ever flats your 3bet and doesn't jam, but if he sees you as a reg, he can apply a ton of pressure here and you can't call. He can ship hands like KQs and you have to fold the best hand because of ICM.

The best play here by far is to flat, if we 3bet NAI to 12k, we can't even call the BB if he jams because he'll be on a super tight range, probably 5% or less.
05-10-2015 , 12:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Showdown Fox
Thank you for your feedbacks ! For the 3bet pre, maybe around ~11k/12k is better?

Maybe I'm being result oriented here but villain turned out to have 1010. Do you think a 2nd barrel here OTT would've been appropriate to make villain fold all his non Kx hands?
depends on sizing etc, not sure, but i dont think he would fold TT JJ QQ etc on turn bet
05-12-2015 , 03:41 AM
Given stack sizes I probably call preflop but 3B is fine too. As others suggeste maybe make it slightly bigger though.

Post flop I see no issues. A double barely may work but it's also building a huge pot if it doesn't, I think the check back and giving up is better.
05-12-2015 , 07:27 AM
How do we think villain's checking river range is divided into check-fold, check-call and check-raise?

Do we think a 4 leads river after we check behind on turn?

How likely is he to have flush and call with it? In these games does NFD usually check-raise flop or wait to see if it hits?

Might 15K get him off something like 55-88 or a chop with another ace?
05-16-2015 , 04:05 PM
I would def flat prelfop reeavaluate after the flop.
05-19-2015 , 06:17 AM
Also in the "flat pre camp". But if u gonna 3bet a small 2.5 is better because both ur and villain ranges are polarized in this spot I.e normally u do not 3bet an UTG opener with medium strength hands and he want be flatting much as pointed out so it is "either or" type of situation

      
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