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07-28-2012, 08:15 AM
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enthusiast
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 97
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4.50/180 - I've been semi-bluffing, should I barrel the river?
Only a few hands played, so no read.
Should I fire one last time if he was on a draw?
Poker Stars, $4.10 Buy-in (15/30 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.
BTN: 1,550 (51.7 bb)
SB: 3,150 (105 bb)
BB: 1,220 (40.7 bb)
UTG+2: 1,511 (50.4 bb)
MP1: 1,360 (45.3 bb)
MP2: 774 (25.8 bb)
Hero (MP3): 1,450 (48.3 bb)
CO: 2,800 (93.3 bb)
Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 9  Q 
3 folds, Hero raises to 75, CO folds, BTN calls 75, 2 folds
Flop: (195) J  T  7 (2 players)
Hero bets 125, BTN calls 125
Turn: (445) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets 200, BTN calls 200
River: (845) J (2 players)
Hero ???
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07-28-2012, 09:33 AM
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veteran
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 3,455
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Re: 4.50/180 - I've been semi-bluffing, should I barrel the river?
Your sizing on the turn is way too small IMO. You're not really repping any value hands by betting so small because you are giving too good of a price for drawing hands to call. By betting again on the turn you are repping JT, QJ+, 77, TT, JJ, QQ+, maybe some combo draws like AKcc etc. All of these hands are vulnerable on this board and you should be betting more for value/protection. Betting bigger on the turn also sets you up nicely for a river shove.
I'm not sure on this hand tbh. I think if you are going to do this, you really just need to empty the clip, however, I feel that's completely unnecessary in such a donk fest soft MTTSNG. If I did open this pre I would fire flop and probably give up on the turn. If you bet bigger on the turn and shove river you probably only get KQ, AcXc and maybe some Tx hands to fold.
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07-31-2012, 05:04 AM
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deviation of equilibrium
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Germany
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Re: 4.50/180 - I've been semi-bluffing, should I barrel the river?
turn is fine. 350 on the river gets his draws to fold, some of which are better than your hand. also some villains fold weak made hands.
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08-03-2012, 05:34 AM
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adept
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 758
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Re: 4.50/180 - I've been semi-bluffing, should I barrel the river?
Fold pre.
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08-07-2012, 08:16 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Auckland
Posts: 7,840
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Re: 4.50/180 - I've been semi-bluffing, should I barrel the river?
not #2 or #4, #3.
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08-08-2012, 07:23 AM
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centurion
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 130
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Re: 4.50/180 - I've been semi-bluffing, should I barrel the river?
Check/fold river. Once the jack comes, it narrows your range signifacantly, and gives him trips some % of the time, and trips will ofc snap call you.
If villain has any kind of made hand he will call you. And there aren't that many draws besides 2 clubs anyway.
I agree with betting bigger OTT
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08-08-2012, 09:22 AM
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centurion
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Netherlands
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Re: 4.50/180 - I've been semi-bluffing, should I barrel the river?
Quote:
Originally Posted by GizYaChips
Fold pre.
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Esp. in early levels.
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08-08-2012, 09:42 AM
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grinder
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 509
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Re: 4.50/180 - I've been semi-bluffing, should I barrel the river?
(as played) -c-bet/fold flop and (again as played) ch/raise turn would prolly be my line.
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08-12-2012, 01:16 AM
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enthusiast
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 70
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Re: 4.50/180 - I've been semi-bluffing, should I barrel the river?
I don't
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08-14-2012, 07:27 AM
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old hand
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: fish pond
Posts: 1,472
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Re: 4.50/180 - I've been semi-bluffing, should I barrel the river?
I don't hate fold pre in early stages, however your plan to 3barrel him has some merit, although without reads in early stages I tend not to barrel on a pure bluff. furo said 350 otr, which seems fine if he's on a draw, however I don't see him laying down a T or J obv, only a FD/SD or a weak 7x type hand (maybe 87, 97), just calculate your equity otr and see if the bet is profitable
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08-14-2012, 07:29 PM
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journeyman
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 294
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[QUOTE=biker;33985947]Only a few hands played, so no read.
Then why are you opening wide in middle position at a level that will make little difference to you'r chip stack. It leaves you in situations such as this one where you have no clue how bad/good villain is.
As played the 3rd bullet might work and when it does you feel like Ivey but 80+% of the time it doesn't and you've bluffed off half you'r stack to some fish calling you down with middle pair within the opening 2 levels of the tourney leaving yourself with greatly reduced FE for later levels and at a Severe disadvantage.
IMO play more tables to stop yourself getting bored and over playing weak hands at trivial levels.
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