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4.5 180 no c bet from sb 4.5 180 no c bet from sb

01-21-2017 , 06:30 PM
PokerStars - $4.10+$0.40|100/200 Ante 20 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 13.5 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
MP+1: 18.55 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
CO: 35.41 BB (VPIP: 25.93, PFR: 20.25, 3Bet Preflop: 12.12, Hands: 83)
BTN: 13.91 BB (VPIP: 13.33, PFR: 9.09, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 46)
Hero (SB): 37.5 BB
BB: 18.19 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 28)
UTG: 98.97 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
UTG+1: 40.47 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)

8 players post ante of 0.1 BB, Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.3 BB) Hero has A Q

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.43 BB, BB calls 1.43 BB

Flop: (5.65 BB, 2 players) T 9 T
Hero checks, BB bets 3 BB, fold

Spoiler:
BB wins 5.65 BB


is this a c bet 100% of the time. c/f to tight?
4.5 180 no c bet from sb Quote
01-21-2017 , 10:24 PM
if check id call one bet for sure, i guess it depends on the player but when we take this line of raise pre in sb and dont cbet it looks like were giving up. i dont like folding such a strong hand sb vs bb when we show weakness
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01-23-2017 , 07:48 AM
CSI of 7.9, blind vs blind, just jam pre unless you think he'll shove a wider range than he calls.

Obviously it's a classic barreling hand but recently I've been checking-calling a lot of these strong aces because
1) There are plenty of other hands to barrel that don't have showdown value
2) Villain might bet the same percent as he calls - but his calling range is mostly hands that have hit the board (i.e. beat us) with all the trash thrown out whereas his betting range should include things that AQ can call for value (virtually all unpaired hands).
3) Some villains spew if you show weakness (see my recent STT hand http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/36...flush-1649719/)

As played - It has to be a call because:

You're still ahead of his range. I don't see that we can put him on one of the other tens that often as there just aren't that many of them.

Against something like a 9 or an underpair you have almost direct pot odds because they will check behind the turn a lot. JJ may also do this. However I would heavily discount pocket pairs from his range. Both of you have a lot of unpaired hands on this board.
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01-30-2017 , 08:29 PM
i balance limp/shoving and 3x pre here a lot.
if limped - 1bb bet with range, x/evaluate turn (call most of a time, because im non believer, especially on this structure and stacksize)
if raised - x/c and x/evaluate turn (call most of a time, because im non believer, especially on this structure and stacksize)

ur line is too weak and too exploitable
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01-31-2017 , 09:40 AM
If you think the villain won´t float you a lot, i would prefer a cbet and maybe barrel if you pick a gutshot in the turn.

I think both the x/c and x/f lines are ok, the x/c because as said you are still ahead of villain's range, but x/f seems ok given that you don't have much information on the BB and you are OOP.

This opinion is from a microstakes player, and play in a field where tight is usually right :P
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02-05-2017 , 04:14 PM
Check/folding here seems too nitty (and if you're going to do that on this texture then you might be better off jamming pre).
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