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4.5 180 man QQ in c/o line check vs very tight villain 4.5 180 man QQ in c/o line check vs very tight villain

01-21-2017 , 06:26 PM
PokerStars - $4.10+$0.40|200/400 Ante 50 NL - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 33.29 BB (VPIP: 9.80, PFR: 5.88, 3Bet Preflop: 4.76, Hands: 51)
Hero (CO): 33.51 BB
BTN: 36.18 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 3.13, Hands: 77)
SB: 39.79 BB (VPIP: 10.29, PFR: 7.58, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 68)
BB: 31.68 BB (VPIP: 17.65, PFR: 17.65, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 17)
UTG: 24.84 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 11.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
UTG+1: 53.65 BB (VPIP: 18.42, PFR: 13.16, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 39)

7 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.38 BB) Hero has Q Q

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.11 BB, fold, SB raises to 4.98 BB, fold, Hero calls 2.86 BB

Flop: (11.83 BB, 2 players) A 8 J
SB bets 2.79 BB, Hero calls 2.79 BB

Turn: (17.4 BB, 2 players) 5
SB bets 8.07 BB, fold

Spoiler:
SB wins 17.4 BB



line check for tight line vs tight villain. Villain has 0% 3 bet 0/30
4.5 180 man QQ in c/o line check vs very tight villain Quote
01-21-2017 , 10:25 PM
raise pre and get this in, tight or not we have the top of our range co vs sb and 30 blinds
4.5 180 man QQ in c/o line check vs very tight villain Quote
01-22-2017 , 06:58 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by oldskool87
raise pre and get this in, tight or not we have the top of our range co vs sb and 30 blinds
your probably right. it felt very nitty in game an over adjustment pre by me. but having made it think I had to play this way post?.
4.5 180 man QQ in c/o line check vs very tight villain Quote
01-23-2017 , 07:10 AM
Def folding to double barrel, but agree this is slam dunk 4bet gii. I actually folded QQ pre yesterday and saw AK gii v KK 75bb deep, so was pretty happy, but that is very very rare!
4.5 180 man QQ in c/o line check vs very tight villain Quote
01-23-2017 , 08:19 AM
We've observed him 3-bet once (this time) out of 31 trials.

My Bayesian post had a table exactly about 3-bet stats over a 30 hand sample
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/19...-post-1585010/

Basically, someone whose 3-bet stat is 2% will run 1/30 33.4 of the time
a 3%er will do it 37.21 % of the time a 5%er 33.89% of time, someone with a 8% 3-bet percentage will run 1/30 21.38% of the time. Even a maniac with a 10% 3-bet will run like this 14.13% of the time over the first 30 opportunities to 3-bet.

What you have observed is broadly consistent with a range of playing styles and should only slightly alter your player pool reads. It's true he's also only VPIPed 7 out of 68 hands but that's still not conclusive.
4.5 180 man QQ in c/o line check vs very tight villain Quote
01-27-2017 , 09:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by oldskool87
raise pre and get this in, tight or not we have the top of our range co vs sb and 30 blinds
Basically this. I'm happy to stackoff QQ for 30 BBs against anyone.
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