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Old 08-04-2012, 08:14 AM   #1
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$4/180

    Poker Stars, $4.10 Buy-in (600/1,200 blinds, 125 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13656742

    MP1: 18,978 (15.8 bb)
    MP2: 36,853 (30.7 bb)
    Hero (MP3): 39,798 (33.2 bb)
    CO: 8,728 (7.3 bb)
    BTN: 60,087 (50.1 bb)
    SB: 5,402 (4.5 bb)
    BB: 52,721 (43.9 bb)
    UTG+1: 29,436 (24.5 bb)
    UTG+2: 17,997 (15 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J J
    UTG+1 raises to 3,000, 3 folds, Hero calls 3,000, CO folds, BTN calls 3,000, SB folds, BB calls 1,800

    Flop: (13,725) A Q 9 (4 players)
    BB checks, UTG+1 bets 8,400, 3 folds

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    villain 16/16 after 50 hands, no history. Pre Flop play?
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    Old 08-04-2012, 08:32 AM   #2
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    Re: $4/180

    just 3b/c pre, you dont induce any jams here vs the stacks behind.
    if there were 20BB stacks i'd like your flat to induce.

    postflop is a nobrainer fold
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    Old 08-04-2012, 01:01 PM   #3
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    just 3b/c pre, you dont induce any jams here vs the stacks behind.
    if there were 20BB stacks i'd like your flat to induce.

    postflop is a nobrainer fold
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    Old 08-04-2012, 02:52 PM   #4
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    It depends on the handrange we 'd assign villain to raise pre from UTG+1. If V raises 99+,AQ+ only we're inducing a coinflip by 3 betting here , if he 4bets this range. If he even folds 99& AQ to our 3Bet, this play as a whole might be -EV, let alone the fact that flippin for 20bb with some shorties left at the FT is -$EV.
    For these reaons I prefer OP´s flat.
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    Old 08-04-2012, 02:54 PM   #5
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    Re: $4/180

    3betting pre is better because youre probably never going to like a flop with overcards just like this one
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    Old 08-06-2012, 03:23 PM   #6
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    flat pre is fine imo, you guys are underestimating how tight a 16/16 is likely to play with 9 left and these stacks.
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    Old 08-07-2012, 04:27 AM   #7
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    6775/c pre it's only 24bbs effective.
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    Old 08-07-2012, 04:30 AM   #8
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    I play like 17/15 over massive sample and I still open KQ,KJs,77,ATs,AJo all day and 4b shove like TT+,Ak maybe wider w histories.
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    Old 08-07-2012, 04:59 AM   #9
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    some great and some lolbad advice itt
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    Old 08-07-2012, 09:42 AM   #10
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    some great and some lolbad advice itt
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