PokerStars - $3.30+$0.20|25/50 Ante 6 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 31.14 BB (VPIP: 17.96, PFR: 16.49, 3Bet Preflop: 6.49, Hands: 209)
Hero (BTN): 56 BB
SB: 90.72 BB (VPIP: 13.97, PFR: 11.90, 3Bet Preflop: 4.76, Hands: 137)
BB: 10.22 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 15.79, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 25)
UTG: 69.76 BB (VPIP: 24.86, PFR: 14.94, 3Bet Preflop: 5.97, Hands: 178)
UTG+1: 28.66 BB (VPIP: 17.39, PFR: 15.20, 3Bet Preflop: 6.52, Hands: 139)
MP: 28.66 BB (VPIP: 25.60, PFR: 18.49, 3Bet Preflop: 6.38, Hands: 125)
MP+1: 43.36 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
MP+2: 30.14 BB (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 10)

9 players post ante of 0.12 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.58 BB) Hero has 7 7

fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, SB raises to 10 BB, fold, Hero calls 7 BB

Flop: (22.08 BB, 2 players) 2 5 K
SB bets 7 BB, Hero calls 7 BB

Turn: (36.08 BB, 2 players) 3
SB checks, Hero bets 15.9 BB, SB raises to 73.6 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 22.98 BB and is all-in

River: (113.84 BB, 2 players) T



ok this was a vomit in the hands hand I played it so bad. Ill go through step by step because obviously I made more then one error in this one. Ill explain my reasoning as much as it was in game.

Pre. If the effective was a bit smaller or he had a bit bigger 3 bet perc I probably would of just shoved pre. But felt to loose in game. Folding seamed to tight since I opened on the button so to close to top of my range to just fold here? As I didn't like shoving or folding ( and i cant 4 bet fold) I elected to call in position.

Flop. Villain really small c bet on flop with just one over card cant see anything to do, apart from call.

Turn. I really misread villains check on turn here. The turn changes the texture of the board and I thought hes value c bets that he bet small would barrel turn (at least 1/2 pot) so when he checks I think I'm good nearly always.

A spot to check behind here? as never getting called by worse really, maybe some drawers, but I'm so sure I'm ahead I elect to bet for value /protection even though its very thin value.

When he shoves I realise ive been sub consciously using hes stack as the effective as his was clear and my remaining chips was obscured by my hud.
I tilt call knowing he has nearly no bluffs in his range and I'm not beating anything.

Ok hopefully I'm not just going to get loads of flames for this one as I think its important to work on ones c game as much as tweaking your a game.

so pre is shove>flat?
post line as played should be ? call 3 bet/call flop/chk turn/evaluate river?

Also any evaluation of villains line here? Its not how I would of played it at all but then he did get me to spew of my stack here with nearly no equity.

In his spot do I overprotect on wet turn card when the straightening aspect isn't really relevant given pre flop action and 2 way I'm unlikely to be on the fd. KQ and midpairs cover more of my range here? Perhaps this "wet" turn card isn't really that wet at all giving starting ranges, and maybe some autopilot playing on my part.

You said everything yourself pretty much. PF call is OK I suppose, calling flop bet IP is OK but just check on turn and fold to any further action unless you bink on the river.

yeah ok, makes sense. but what do you make of villains line? is it fundamentally flawed and got lucky to exploit my play so optimally. Or is it clever play exploiting noob reg reading of board?

Is my line protected by my range vs my actual holding at all. Or am I a level behind getting owned here?

Imo, you misplayed almost every street (except the flop cbet). I'm not sure if your standard size @t50 is 3x or you just want to put the big blind in a shove/fold mode, not gonna debate that, but if you 2.5x, you're giving yourself better odds to peel vs a 3b, it doesn't matter that much really because, now I think we should fold vs SB 3b.
Preflop call is pretty bad/leak. First of all, yes the sample is small, we have to deal with that, but his stats shows that his 3b range is more value oriented. 2nd of all, we can shove vs a SB linear 3b range, however, here we don't have the odds to setmine here and also our hand lacks of playability. We're IP but most of the times we're getting into a mess post.
Once he's checking turn I think we should go to showdown, we don't need protection vs his 6 outs and he still can have 99-QQ (because people still love to cbet).
I think his line is perfectly fine, we're folding mid pairs to a 2nd barrel (or whatever floats we may have there like A5ss etc), but if he checks, we may take a stab to protect vs his overcards and once the turn brings a flushdraw we may convince ourselves that we're still ahead vs a hand like Axdd, but in reality people have too much value than bluffs in these games.

Thanks for feedback. Your comments make a lot of sense. 6 months ago I would never of flatted the 3 bet here but now I trust my post flop play to realize mid pairs equity post flop unimproved without stacking of to lightly!......So on recent evidence think I should definitely be reconsidering this rational lol.

I really hate flatting 3-bets, even in position like this, when we have the tactical possibility of an potential all-in.

Playing around in HRC (I've given in now and subscribed) we can go all-in if we think he is about 12.6% but not about 10%. The 12.6% is 66+, ATs+, A5s-A2s, ATo+, KTs+ KQo+, QTs+, JTs+

So the question is, do we think he's 3-betting all that?