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3.5r 180 man. KQs 3.5r 180 man. KQs

02-24-2017 , 06:01 PM
PokerStars - $3.30+$0.20|15/30 Ante 4 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 101.87 BB (VPIP: 12.59, PFR: 10.69, 3Bet Preflop: 8.89, Hands: 143)
UTG: 86.1 BB (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
UTG+1: 86.6 BB (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 7)
MP: 98.17 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
MP+1: 98 BB (VPIP: 13.27, PFR: 8.79, 3Bet Preflop: 2.33, Hands: 98)
MP+2: 32.27 BB (VPIP: 23.84, PFR: 21.25, 3Bet Preflop: 8.28, Hands: 455)
CO: 97.67 BB (VPIP: 19.18, PFR: 15.64, 3Bet Preflop: 5.94, Hands: 292)
BTN: 104.8 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
Hero (SB): 44.53 BB

9 players post ante of 0.13 BB, Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.7 BB) Hero has K Q

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, fold, fold, MP+2 raises to 3.5 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 3 BB, fold, UTG calls 2.5 BB

Flop: (12.7 BB, 3 players) 6 8 Q
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP+2 bets 6.6 BB, Hero raises to 13.2 BB, fold, MP+2 raises to 28.63 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 15.43 BB

Turn: (69.97 BB, 2 players) 7

River: (69.97 BB, 2 players) A

Spoiler:
Hero shows K Q (One Pair, Queens)
(Pre 18%, Flop 18%, Turn 11%)
MP+2 shows A A (Three of a Kind, Aces)
(Pre 82%, Flop 82%, Turn 89%)
MP+2 wins 69.97 BB


Not sure if I played this bad. Hard for me to tell I don't really click back much at all if ever really and I am completely unaware of dynamics and response by player types.

I did it here due to the fish left to act. I think the fish will think my click back is weak and could shove or call worse made hands and drawers. If he does Reggy villain will see my click back with a fish left to act with my stack size as strong and will fold hands with some decent equity.

All that actually happens is I give villain the green light to shove for value.
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02-24-2017 , 07:51 PM
I don't really like calling out of the SB at all but I know some people do do it sometimes. I usually 3/bet fold.

I'm not sure what your flop raise was meant to achieve. He's not likely to have a flush or straight draws and you're making him fold all his bluffs that you crush anyway.
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02-24-2017 , 08:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by spand42
I don't really like calling out of the SB at all but I know some people do do it sometimes. I usually 3/bet fold.

I'm not sure what your flop raise was meant to achieve. He's not likely to have a flush or straight draws and you're making him fold all his bluffs that you crush anyway.
Yeah I see what your saying. my calling range is narrow here being oop but kqs plays well in a spot like this I think. As to the flop click back my line is trying to balance exploiting the tendencies of the fish while being unexploitable from the regish player. It ends up a bit of a mess. but my play was based on how I thought the two different players perceived my action in very different ways. Basically I ran into the top of the regs range and maybe the bottom of the fish which may of been the worse case scenario. I'm not sure, click backs are new ground for me, as they seam non sensical without previous history/dynamics.
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02-25-2017 , 06:59 PM
nothing wrong with a flat here kqs is more then strong enough. many suited connectors make great flats here. no reason to raise the flop though, just call and see what happens
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02-27-2017 , 08:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by spand42
I don't really like calling out of the SB at all but I know some people do do it sometimes. I usually 3/bet fold.
+1

The stacks are yucky to 3-bet then fold to further action though. We could probably just about 3bet-jam I think.
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02-27-2017 , 09:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LektorAJ
+1

The stacks are yucky to 3-bet then fold to further action though. We could probably just about 3bet-jam I think.
Really? Ok regs iso bet given fish stats could be fairly wide but surely the effective stack is to deep to shove pre here?
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02-27-2017 , 10:08 AM
Yes, well it's a situation where all options are bad.

The 44BB effective stack against the BB and UTG is not ideal, but it's less important than the 32BB effective stack against the HJ and we're doing less than 10X to put him all in.

Other than that, You could try something like 3-b to 7BBs and see if you can level him into folding immediately or to a c-bet on the flop. But I don't like calling 10% of the main effective stack OOP.
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