Villian is a really good reg and is playing 21/18. his 3b % from the BB is 8%.

I was playing pretty normal and standard.

Is this a fold?

Hard to say without having played him but he doesn't look like he's raise-folding here, you can't flat, and you are not-likely to be in good shape when you get it in - you also have ICM to consider (though I play 45s not 180s so take that with a pinch of salt).

I would fold and feel tilted here because it's borderline.

I don't use a HUD but I assume 8% is his 3-bet when raised from all positions, not just the SB? How has he been playing against SB opens? Also how have you been playing in the SB have you given him any/many walks?

The 3bet from bb stat is not a good indication of his restealing tendencies. You should look for the resteal stat (3b vs steal).

I believe if he is really good as you say, he is capable of restealing light especially if you are stealing wide from the SB and you are folding a high % of the time vs resteals. Good players exploit the weaknesses in your game.

I think that if he perceives that a small 3b is +EV then he will go for it because if you 4b shove over the top and he folds he will have a 15bb stack which has still good playability.

Now, I am not sure what is the best move here. You cannot flat OOP so you either fold or 4b shove. Without details of gameflow and specific tells (eg if he is 3betting small frequently) I would fold. You are clearly crushed vs his value range (TT-AA, AJ+). It all depends on how often he has a bluffing range in such spots and how big it is.

When holding a hand with decent equity vs tricky players in such spots, I think its a good move to limp and shove over his 2.5-3X raise so he will have to deal with the marginal spot. You also apply full ICM pressure on him and he will be forced to fold good hands like KQ and mid pocket pairs. If he checks behind, you play post flop with a hand that usually dominates his range.

8% is his 3b from the BB and I had not many chances to steal his BB so no real info on that. Thanks for the good replies.

Very good post sir, ty.

If there is no history then what about the "level reads" in these tournaments that he will be applying to your play? - i.e. about the general player pool. In 45s similar or lower buy-ins they play a bit too tight from the SB so you would be getting respect from villain.

SB vs BB is almost like separate game within the game, stats from general play really don't say much.

Just to add something else to think about here, if you ever feel nervous because the guy is super aggro you can shove this hand no problem

If you have zero fold equity you don't need to shove in this spot.

If the Villain had AQ would he fold a K64 flop? Probably.

If the flop was QhJh6h would he fold the flop? Probably.

If the flop was KQx would he fold the flop? Maybe.

If you think you'll never have any fold equity in this hand, it's probably best to fold pre.

Never raise fold +ev shoves. You either raise to induce or you shove. Make up your mind before you play the hand.

The other option is limp shove but you need a balanced limp game if you're going to start doing that vs regs.

your hand rates to be the best regardless of action , either open shove or rasie to enduce, believe it or not you do still have fold equity and he may be doing this with half the aces you beat, your hand is simply to strong to fold here your never going to find a perfect spot in hold em, this spot is ver ygood for you and im 100 percent sure its profitable to get your money in here regardless of action , folding here is a big mistake.

I doubt he is 3betting small with low aces than just 3b jam so that does not include in his range.. I jammed in game.

If we say that hero has no FE with a 4bet/shove, then we're saying that V only 3bets with value hands (or at least value-ish hands that will call off for pot odds). In other words, we're saying that V has zero bluffs in his range, and that seems absurd to me. Of course he has some bluffs here, that will fold to our shove. If he has zero bluffs here, he'd be highly exploitable, and prob not a decent reg after all. He also has to give your 4bet at least some credit; since you didn't jam yourself, he has to know that your range will be more heavily weigthed towards hands that wanted to induce.

Without any of us knowing V, it's difficult to construct a range for his 3bet, esp since as noted above, BvB is a game unto itself. Does it include A5s-A2s? I'd probably shove those, along with baby PP, so maybe not. What about KTs-JTs? Theses are perfectly fine hands to call IP, so would he raise them BvB? (I know when I'm multitabling and pressed for time, I sometimes literally forget that calling IP is a fine play in some spots.)

In this particular spot I'd probably jam, but since I can't really give you what range I think V has, I have no idea what to think about the move. I'd be less inclined to jam if the last couple of orbits have been standard, or if I was getting the occasional walk, or if there was at least 1 soft/spewy spot at the table. I'd be more inclined to jam if the table was more aggro or players on my right were constantly jamming on me and I didn't have as many spots to 3bet/shove myself.

r/f is fine, reggy BB looks strong here

Limp/shove. As played sigh fold

never should raise fold, ever. Shove or limp/shove (I prefer limp/shove).

gii