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Old 06-10-2012, 06:08 PM   #1
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$3.50 R/A 180 man turbo, 4 handed with AQ

I found this a trick spot 4 handed dealer has been bullying table for a while with stats 34/27 over 46 hands.

Should I 4bet shove, ICM considered?



    Poker Stars, $3.19 Buy-in (5,000/10,000 blinds, 1,000 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 4 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13171031

    BB: 152,396 (15.2 bb)
    Hero (CO): 223,408 (22.3 bb)
    BTN: 367,827 (36.8 bb)
    SB: 161,869 (16.2 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with A Q
    Hero raises to 22,000, BTN raises to 49,000, 2 folds

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    Old 06-10-2012, 06:17 PM   #2
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    Re: $3.50 R/A 180 man turbo, 4 handed with AQ

    Ship it
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    Old 06-11-2012, 06:11 AM   #3
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    Re: $3.50 R/A 180 man turbo, 4 handed with AQ

    read dependent, but seems like a solid spot to jam
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    Old 06-11-2012, 09:28 AM   #4
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    Re: $3.50 R/A 180 man turbo, 4 handed with AQ

    Has he been shoving over raises with these stacks or has he been 3betting with smaller sizing or has he not 3bet at all yet? If he hasn't done this before, it seems close. If he has, 4bet shove seems best.
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    Old 06-11-2012, 10:48 AM   #5
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    Re: $3.50 R/A 180 man turbo, 4 handed with AQ

    He had mostly been shoving. I had not seen a 3-bet that wasn't a shove from him.

    How much fold equity do I have against him if I give him pots odds of 174k to call a 291k pot?
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    Old 06-11-2012, 11:59 AM   #6
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    Re: $3.50 R/A 180 man turbo, 4 handed with AQ

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    He had mostly been shoving. I had not seen a 3-bet that wasn't a shove from him.
    Everything is in that sentence in my opinion. He was mostly agressive with crap and now he wants you to jam with a good hand. A normal play for a bad agressive player.

    You can't even call as he would 75% of the time jamming on any flop and I don't think you are ready for that.
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    Old 06-12-2012, 04:56 AM   #7
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    Re: $3.50 R/A 180 man turbo, 4 handed with AQ

    Stats and how active he has been recently is a huge contributor to the descision.
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    Old 06-12-2012, 05:59 AM   #8
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    Re: $3.50 R/A 180 man turbo, 4 handed with AQ

    isn't it maybe just a case that he now has a stack to 3bet instead of just shove, AND he's on the BU? Did he pick up a double on his last hand?
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    Old 06-12-2012, 09:21 AM   #9
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    Re: $3.50 R/A 180 man turbo, 4 handed with AQ

    If you are suspicious that he does hold a monster since he usually 3-bet shoves, why dont you just flat the 3 bet? You got sth like 2.5 pot odds, and you will hit in 33% of the time (maybe less because his range will often include an Ace as a blocker). I think I would 4-bet allin instead of flat calling/folding given the the table dynamics, as well as position and stck considerations.
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    Old 06-12-2012, 02:42 PM   #10
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    Re: $3.50 R/A 180 man turbo, 4 handed with AQ

    This entirely depends on villain. Have you been raising a lot? Has he been 3betting lots? etc

    If you have been raising a lot, and he has been 3 betting a lot then you should never be folding this. If you have been tight and so is villain then I can find a fold.

    Any reads on villain?

    I am 4bet shoving this 90% of the time.
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    Old 06-12-2012, 04:39 PM   #11
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    Re: $3.50 R/A 180 man turbo, 4 handed with AQ

    I guess you didnt agree with me then Tom when I said it was a ship. Although Kan0 is a bit of a donk so I might be inclined to fold now.
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    Old 06-12-2012, 08:21 PM   #12
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    Re: $3.50 R/A 180 man turbo, 4 handed with AQ

    Always shoving here v this guy with these stats and v like 95% of regs.
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