Poker Stars $3.19+$0.31 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t10/t20 Blinds + t3 - 8 players
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SB: t1745 M = 32.31
BB: t1468 M = 27.19
UTG: t1286 M = 23.81
Hero (UTG+1): t2651 M = 49.09
MP1: t1446 M = 26.78
MP2: t1386 M = 25.67
CO: t1816 M = 33.63
BTN: t1702 M = 31.52

Pre Flop: (t54) Hero is UTG+1 with K Q
1 fold, Hero raises to t52, 3 folds, BTN calls t52, SB calls t42, BB raises to t210, Hero calls t158, 1 fold, SB calls t158

Flop: (t706) T T T (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets t409, SB folds, BB calls t409

Turn: (t1524) J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t1600

Villain is 28/16 over 32 hands.

This is the 11th hand of the table, I've had 2 NSD wins so far and definitely have the aggressive image. (I flopped sets tho)

Picked QKs to bluff on the flop as my range looks something like: check back 66-88, any A high I may have, bet 99,JJ,QQ, QKs/KJs(sometimes?)

Turn J -> I continue to barrel with QQ/KQs. I guess its possible to have 0 hands that fire OTT

Standard? Thoughts on all streets appreciated.

I'm not sure what you're trying to get to fold on the flop vs a 3Bettor that decided not to CBet this flop. He's not folding his A-highs or pocket pairs and you beat everything else. I would have just seen a turn for free.

As played I suppose you have to go for the triple-barrel now and hope to fold out underpairs or AK type hands.

he has 800 remaining OTT, pot is 1.5k there is no triple barreling the last bullet is OTT

flop bet i feel is super standard. I'm betting QKs to protect my value range for flop bets. If i'm only betting pocket pairs OTF that is super exploitable for villain he can fold out all his AK/AQ and just go with his strong pairs

In fact, I'm actually really okay with the way I played the hand here - I've got a question that I'm more curious about:

What do we do as the villain in BB?

What does our action and corresponding ranges OTF looks like if we were V?

I'm guessing strat 1: cbet flop -> shove turn, or x/f
strat 2: x/r or x/f flop

Which is the better strategy of the two and what are the corresponding ranges for the cbet in strat 1, and the x/r in strat 2?

I'm going to try to defend my play a bit more coherently in this post:

On the flop, my value range consists of the strongest of my pocket pairs.

This includes: QQ, JJ, and 99 (18 combos)

To balance this range I include hands with good blockers to his best hands: KQs, KJs. (8 combos)

I don't include any ace here because those hands have SDV.

Therefore my flop betting range looks like this.

On the turn, my JJ and KJs have improved, QQ remains strong. 99 falls off a little in value (Althoguh not terribly much against his range, he really only improves with AJs here), and KQs remains a bluff (although it picks up 3 outs for a 9 to gain SDV against A high type hands)

With so many hands that will now shove for value against his range (JJ, QQ, KJs), I feel that to balance this and ensure that I cannot be exploited by having him simply fold all his weaker hands I need to incorporate some bluffs into my range.

When I shove here (800 eff into 1.5k), he is getting 25% to call. Against my value range he has approximately 10% with his non premium PP hands and if I'm only shoving for value he can afford to fold all his hands that are not AA/KK/QQ/JJ.

Therefore I need to continue to shove my KQs and 99 (which is pretty breakeven against his range so rather than have one explicit hand that will bet flop check turn I rather just toss it into the betting turn range)

I kinda hate checking turn with a value hand like QQ/KJ and give him a free card to hit his A so i'm gonna stick with the balanced shove all hands strat

I'm not sure why we need to bet this flop at all with any of our range? We're shallow enough to get it in on two streets.

When villain is checking this flop, I can't imagine he's ever folding so if we do decide to bet, do we need to have any bluffs? He's never folding AK or AQ here to one bet, and likely not to a double barrel on a safe river.

because it's 3way and I don't want SB to be in for a free card with my value range?

"never folding here" is a bit of a dangerous and i think erroneous thing to say (OTT)

he still needs to be good 25% of the time when he calls and if he doesn't have 25% equity against my range with his hand he needs to fold

i mean if it's true then we can exploit by only betting our value hands but similarly he can adjust by folding everything except AA/KK/QQ (refer to above post)

hence this is the reason i'm more interested in the villain's range and options, and less worried about my own decision here

i don't think we should ever have a x/c range OTF in villain's range, and i'm curious whether x/jam or bet -> jam is a better line to have that value range is supposed to look like

EDIT: Just noticed you also said villain is never folding flop once he checks. That is obviously untrue, he clearly has an x/f range.

Never bluffing and always only value betting is never a good idea in general.

EDIT2: also for reasons above i am not waiting to the river to fire the second bullet, I jam on the turn.

It was trying to construct a range for villain that led me to think that betting the flop as a bluff isn't going to be profitable.

I would have thought that all his random 3Bet bluffs with no showdown value e.g. QJ, suited connectors are going to CBet this board along with some value hands e.g. 88-QQ.

I don't know what hands he's 3Betting with that are going to x/f this flop, which is why I said that I don't think he's ever folding when we take the lead on the flop.

He could conceivably x/c any Tx, although there's probably not too many in his 3Bet range anyway. He might also x/c AA/KK - like I said earlier if he knows he can get it in on two streets, he might as well let others bluff it off or catch up a bit.

I think you're giving villain a much wider range than he probably has based on very little info. If he's capable of 3Betting really light then yes, you trying to target certain portions of his range make sense but I don't think that most villains at random $3.50 SNGs do that at all.

I kinda agree with spand42. I do not think this is a spot for us to take initiative at all. I think in most of the time villain after checking the flop will be unbalanced with only value hands there. On this flop imo he should continue with 100% of his range there given the preflop action.

This. You're not getting him off his obvious full house here.

Fwiw villain has AKo

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I think you need to assign villain a super tight range here considering you're EP raise. Most would just defend in the BB. Villain 3 betting here is never weak. Most likely JJ+AKs. The flop bet is super exploitable on your part and if I were villain I'd just jam over your bet. Villain knows you're capped to some broadways and maybe some smaller pairs, but villain remains uncapped. This is not a good flop for you to be betting. Are you betting for value or as a bluff? I don't see villain ever folding any of their range here with this board. Turn can go either way, semi bluff it or check back, I think either or is fine.

Yeah this is pretty much spot on. I just don't see what you're trying to accomplish betting the flop.


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