Originally Posted by Glitlr
Even on the bubble, you could consider calling if you really thought the guy was very wide. ICM hates it, but ICM also (in addition to fEV) doesn't understand who YOU are as a player. Example, if you always play 7 and 15$ 45 mans, then you are in this $3 45 man then obviously it is not as important! But ICM makes everyone the same. If Phil Ivey played this game, it would tell Phil Ivey to fold just like a guy who plays 10 cent games. But that would be silly for Phil Ivey to fold and listen to ICM in a $3 45 man.
Hope this helps.
Hi. Thanks for the comment.
About ICM not understanding who we are as players... Surely if we have an edge over the field, we should be looking for spots with a bigger edge and not simply accepting a marginal +cEV (and IMO -$EV) spot because we can do better. If we don't have an edge then I can see calling as we're not going to get anything better. I mean if we go out (call it 40% of the time) we can no longer use our edge. When we fold, we will be dealt more hands 100% of the time and be able to play each one at a higher standard than the average 3/45er. Is this flawed thinking?
I do understand yours and Mavs' points though - has definitely made me think!