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Old 01-26-2012, 05:32 PM   #1
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$3.5 45er/180men FT hands

anyone makes the icm fold?

PokerStars NLHE Tournament, ($3.19+$0.31), t600/t1200/t75 blinds, 6 handed, 31%/21.5%/16.5%/12.5%/9%/6%/3.5% payouts
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{Tournament|PokerStars|3.19|0.31|600|1200|75|45-Man}
Hero: t11103 8.7 BBs{Player|Hero|11103|8h|8c}
UTG+1: t21888 17 BBs{Player|UTG+1|21888|Fold|75}
CO: t8540 6.7 BBs{Player|CO|8540|Fold|75}
BTN: t17710 14 BBs{Player|BTN|17710|Fold|75}
SB: t6132 4.8 BBs{Player|SB|6132|Fold|75}
BB: t2127 1.7 BBs{Player|BB|2127|Call|2127|Overridden|168|136|136|1 19|136|119|119|136|119|119|119|168|119|119|119|119 |119|119|119|119|119|119|119|119|119|119}

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 88
Hero?

Opponent calling ranges when hero pushes:
UTG+1 (5+), CO (5+), BTN (5+), SB (8+), BB (99+)


anyone folds this?

PokerStars NLHE Tournament, ($3.19+$0.31), t600/t1200/t75 blinds, 5 handed, 31%/21.5%/16.5%/12.5%/9%/6%/3.5% payouts
Hand exported from the SitNGo Wizard. How to import this hand into the SitNGo Wizard.
{Tournament|PokerStars|3.19|0.31|600|1200|75|45-Man}
UTG: t5232 4.1 BBs{Player|UTG|5232|Fold|75}
Hero: t11451 9 BBs{Player|Hero|11451|Kh|Th}
BTN: t26367 21 BBs{Player|BTN|26367|Fold|75}
SB: t7040 5.5 BBs{Player|SB|7040|Call|7040|Overridden|63|38|34|13}
BB: t17410 14 BBs{Player|BB|17410|Fold|75}

Preflop: Hero is CO with KT
1 fold, Hero?

Opponent calling ranges when hero pushes:
BTN (7.1+), SB (17+), BB (12+)
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Old 01-27-2012, 12:40 AM   #2
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Re: $3.5 45er/180men FT hands

1. in $3.50 45man, it's snap shove. (Why it's an ICM fold?? I think it's a nice ICM push)
2. Another nice shoving hand in this spot.
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Old 01-27-2012, 03:28 AM   #3
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Re: $3.5 45er/180men FT hands

those pushes are about -0,22$ev
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Old 01-27-2012, 04:20 AM   #4
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Re: $3.5 45er/180men FT hands

Sorry, 2nd one is not +EV spot. I misread one stack there actually.
But 1st one Wiz is showing it's a FOLD but I doubt it. Usually I try to follow(as usual I deviate a lot being not that good and situation wise) Nash, according to Nash Calc 77+ is push. It gives quite tight range to all except BB who'll be calling anyway. If others call lighter than Nash then your showdown equity is improving anyway.
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Old 06-22-2012, 06:34 PM   #5
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Re: $3.5 45er/180men FT hands

any of these hand is from 3.5 r 180? to shallow i guess
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Old 06-22-2012, 08:12 PM   #6
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Re: $3.5 45er/180men FT hands

KTs is a raise/fold-to-big-ones/call-small. Judge me, but I do not always see only two options <10bbs. In the first one I am shoving 88 as I do not want to induce and my hand is strong enough.
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Old 06-22-2012, 08:12 PM   #7
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Re: $3.5 45er/180men FT hands

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any of these hand is from 3.5 r 180? to shallow i guess
It's 3.5$ 45men.
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Old 06-25-2012, 09:48 AM   #8
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Re: $3.5 45er/180men FT hands

For the first hand, I need chips anyway to go upper on the ladder. SB and BB have shallow stacks, would call me lighter because of that and I've got the perfect hand to face them. I think I actually just need to beat SB's range since even if I lose against BB I still win chips from SB quite often unless both hit a higher card OTB.

So, shove !

I imagine KT would be a shove here also but I dislike the later position of the higher stacks. BTN got 21 and if he goes all-in with any A, I would hate it. Same goes for BB who can be tempted to call with any A also.

I fold here.
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Old 06-25-2012, 12:47 PM   #9
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Re: $3.5 45er/180men FT hands

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KTs is a raise/fold-to-big-ones/call-small. Judge me, but I do not always see only two options <10bbs. In the first one I am shoving 88 as I do not want to induce and my hand is strong enough.
so un profitable lol with less than 10 BB
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Old 06-25-2012, 01:34 PM   #10
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Re: $3.5 45er/180men FT hands

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Old 06-25-2012, 02:49 PM   #11
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Re: $3.5 45er/180men FT hands

why bump?
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Old 06-25-2012, 03:02 PM   #12
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Re: $3.5 45er/180men FT hands

ask tomnovicky
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