Minraise is fine. I fold as played. Especially if you think you have an edge. Calling is probably OK if you think you're a worse player. As for calling range.... 55/A9o/A7s/KQo ish...
r/c is way better than open shoving & stating minraise/decide to be better than jamming is also bad because your giving balancing 0 thoughts which is superbad against regs HU obv. you could only argue r/f if specific reg is a fish in terms of reshoving which a lot of them are (especially HU) but open 100% then unless you think flatting is a concern which it generally isn't against those guys. that being said if you think he's good you should be willing to get A2 in for 15bb eff and do this by raise/calling please. not only because you're balancing your r/f range that way being able to steal wider (nice benefit tho) also because no better hands are folding to a shove but all worse hands out of the call-a-shove-range will be reshoving anyway and a lot of hands out of the fold-to-a-shove-range could should be reshoving and you're basically beating them all. i am a long-time-lurker (1st post yeah) and this seems to be a spot a lot of you are getting wrong due to static categorizations of hands like A2 which need to be adapted in some spots and this seems to be one of them.
if the reg is good enough to worry about balance, he is also most likely good enough to open jam a2o with these stack sizes, as a good reg will actually flat a fair amount (correctly) with hands like 98o (and many others) and overall the EV of jamming is definitely better than raising. that being said almost no regs are actually good enough for this to be a concern, and most just shove or fold to a minr. if that's the case min/call may be slightly better depending on the reg.
also a2o plays really bad as an inducing hand. hands like 76s have nearly 50% equity vs you, and you are WAY better off when they fold. if he is rejamming k2o, k3o, q2o or whatever, then yes it's ok to induce but other the only merit is for balance (the fact you have less of your open range that will call a shove).
also its 15bb not 20 (fairly big difference)
Last edited by OMGClayDol; 07-26-2012 at 11:03 PM.
should have mentioned that i don't expect most regs having a clue in terms of reshoving to be flatting much in these spots as well. agree facing races with like 76s out of the fold-to-a-shove-range is a downside, so "beating all induced reshoves " is inaccurate as is "r/c is way better than open shoving" then. poporella you just raised first in to call after looking at the odds etc which clearly is wrong thought process because correct decision making begins before doing anything and a lot of things need to be considered.
if the reg is good enough to worry about balance, he is also most likely good enough to open jam a2o with these stack sizes, as a good reg will actually flat a fair amount (correctly) with hands like 98o (and many others) and overall the EV of jamming is definitely better than raising. that being said almost no regs are actually good enough for this to be a concern, and most just shove or fold to a minr. if that's the case min/call may be slightly better depending on the reg.
also a2o plays really bad as an inducing hand. hands like 76s have nearly 50% equity vs you, and you are WAY better off when they fold. if he is rejamming k2o, k3o, q2o or whatever, then yes it's ok to induce but other the only merit is for balance (the fact you have less of your open range that will call a shove).
if the reg is good enough to worry about balance, he is also most likely good enough to open jam a2o with these stack sizes, as a good reg will actually flat a fair amount (correctly) with hands like 98o (and many others) and overall the EV of jamming is definitely better than raising. that being said almost no regs are actually good enough for this to be a concern, and most just shove or fold to a minr. if that's the case min/call may be slightly better depending on the reg.
also a2o plays really bad as an inducing hand. hands like 76s have nearly 50% equity vs you, and you are WAY better off when they fold. if he is rejamming k2o, k3o, q2o or whatever, then yes it's ok to induce but other the only merit is for balance (the fact you have less of your open range that will call a shove).
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