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Old 02-18-2012, 11:12 AM   #1
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3$ 45 QQ 3way vs a reg

do we wiff this or anyone cc?
3bettor is a reg.

PokerStars NLHE Tournament, ($3.19+$0.31), t10/t20 blinds, 8 handed, 50%/30%/20% payouts
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{Tournament|PokerStars|3.19|0.31|10|20|0|NLHE Full Table}
UTG: t3060 153 BBs{Player|UTG|3060|RaiseTo|60|Average|16|16|7}
UTG+1: t1500 75 BBs{Player|UTG+1|1500|Fold|0}
UTG+2: t1520 76 BBs{Player|UTG+2|1520|Fold|0}
UTG+3: t1470 74 BBs{Player|UTG+3|1470|Fold|0}
CO: t1470 74 BBs{Player|CO|1470|RaiseTo|200|Average|11|8|8|1}
BTN: t1500 75 BBs{Player|BTN|1500|Fold|0}
SB: t1480 74 BBs{Player|SB|1480|Fold|0}
Hero: t1500 75 BBs{Player|Hero|1500|Qs|Qh}

Preflop: Hero is BB with QQ
UTG raises to t60 (8.3+), 3 folds, CO raises to t200 (5.7+), 2 folds, Hero?

Opponent calling ranges when hero pushes:
UTG (3.6+), CO (4.1+)
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so i cc, what now, do we beat anything, fold or call and ck fold turn?

FLOP ($610) 3 J 5

Hero checks, UTG checks, CO bets $330, Hero ?
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Old 02-18-2012, 01:51 PM   #2
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Re: 3$ 45 QQ 3way vs a reg

If we assume reg has JJ/AK+ in his range pre (minus QQ, blockers). Now u beat zero hands.

Either he has a set in JJ or he has KK/AA... Very very very very rare its AK when he is betting into 2 opp.

FOLD.
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Old 02-18-2012, 02:14 PM   #3
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Re: 3$ 45 QQ 3way vs a reg

jepp, that what i thought, anyone cc pre?
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Old 02-18-2012, 06:19 PM   #4
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Re: 3$ 45 QQ 3way vs a reg

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Old 02-19-2012, 01:24 AM   #5
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Re: 3$ 45 QQ 3way vs a reg

Can't call for set value (+ you're oop and squeezed) nor can you shove for value imo.
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Old 02-20-2012, 12:52 PM   #6
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Re: 3$ 45 QQ 3way vs a reg

KK I run into AA pre, but QQ I just fold.
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Old 02-20-2012, 04:05 PM   #7
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Re: 3$ 45 QQ 3way vs a reg

Nobody thinks that it's possible that the reg is CBeting AK, AQ or a smaller pair?
I know that I would take another shot after two checks ( if I think that any of the two callers has a tendency to call wide), and if I hit a top set on the flop I usually give somebody a chance to bluff, even with two flush cards on the table.

And before the flop definitely a raise, to about 500t, and if u get shoved on than u can fold.
Don't see a point in just calling with QQ, u get no information and have a tough decision when facing a CBet.


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Old 02-20-2012, 04:43 PM   #8
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Re: 3$ 45 QQ 3way vs a reg

congrats. you folded to something like 8-8.
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Old 02-20-2012, 08:20 PM   #9
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Re: 3$ 45 QQ 3way vs a reg

Regs 3bet 88 vs UTG @ 10/20 nowadays? Lol, that's just as ridiculous as 4b/f iyam.
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Old 02-20-2012, 09:29 PM   #10
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Re: 3$ 45 QQ 3way vs a reg

I think I like 4bet ~400 and fold to 2 shoves, call otherwise. The thing is that even if this is slight -EV it is only if villains know we have QQ. Our range is crazy strong so we should have lots of FE. We will certainly run into KK+ lots but 4/f with 88 is probably very close to 4/c, so I can't see 4/f QQ (lol).

Calling sucks OOP with even KK/AA versus their likely ranges, so I don't think it is a good play with QQ and I would rather turn QQ/AK into a bluff, even if that means we need to call it off bad later in the hand...

I probably just fold JJ to this action vs most tbh..

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