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Old 06-20-2012, 08:51 AM   #1
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3/45 multiway bubble allin

    Poker Stars, $3.19 Buy-in (600/1,200 blinds, 75 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13283872

    MP1: 5,899 (4.9 bb)
    MP2: 6,156 (5.1 bb)
    MP3: 10,038 (8.4 bb)
    CO: 6,002 (5 bb)
    BTN: 21,058 (17.5 bb)
    Hero (SB): 7,872 (6.6 bb)
    BB: 9,712 (8.1 bb)
    UTG+2: 763 (0.6 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is SB with K K
    UTG+2 calls 688 and is all-in, 2 folds, MP3 calls 1,200, CO raises to 5,927 and is all-in, BTN raises to 20,983 and is all-in, Hero ?? 2 folds




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    Old 06-20-2012, 09:14 AM   #2
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    Re: 3/45 multiway bubble allin

    If CO and BTN went all in it would be okay to call with QQ+ when 8 players left. Since there is this UTG guy's all in too I think KK is okay here. You wouldn't lose much leaving with the 8th place because the 7th pays so little but you can win big.

    CO and BTN probably got some A with a big kicker or worse, BTN's hand can be as low as 66+, AT+ if he's decent, they got very little outs, KK should do well and it is easy to win this SnG when you win this hand. You are left with a good position at the table too.

    Very interesting spot actually. :P
    Can't remember happening to me much. Maybe couple of times.
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    Old 06-20-2012, 09:32 AM   #3
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    Re: 3/45 multiway bubble allin

    i agree with you, KK would be my bottom

    just wanted to know if someone reshove only AA here
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    Old 06-20-2012, 09:54 AM   #4
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    Re: 3/45 multiway bubble allin

    we only have to beat CO and UTG+2's range here, as we cover them both - surely this makes us much wider here than just KK+
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    Old 06-20-2012, 11:25 AM   #5
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    Re: 3/45 multiway bubble allin

    Wow - very interesting spot.
    It depends on what we think MP3 is going to do. If he's tight and likely to be inducing then it's OK to fold QQ. I'm not that worried about BTN as he covers everyone, so he's likely to be widening his ranges.
    Otherwise QQ+ is fine here.
    We will almost never bust 8th so will at least get 7th. Remember the pay jump to 7th is bigger than the pay jump to 6th and we're "guaranteed" that 7th. Given 7th-6th is the smallest payjump this is where taking a risk with QQ is OK.
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    Old 06-20-2012, 04:21 PM   #6
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    Re: 3/45 multiway bubble allin

    utg+2 doesn't really play here, we are definitely against CO range and I think that we beat BTN by some margin too. In a satellite, folding KK here would be okay, but I think we have a good opportunity here to call KK+ definitely. It would be okay if anyone put it in sng wiz.
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    Old 06-21-2012, 09:06 AM   #7
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    Re: 3/45 multiway bubble allin

    KK isn't even a thought, the question is QQ, which I'd call. Maybe even JJ.
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    Old 06-21-2012, 12:06 PM   #8
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    Re: 3/45 multiway bubble allin

    QQ+ for me.
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    Old 06-21-2012, 12:25 PM   #9
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    Re: 3/45 multiway bubble allin

    Same here QQ+ for me at these stakes. I would be facing AK-AQ-AJ which would block each other.
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    Old 06-21-2012, 02:06 PM   #10
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    Re: 3/45 multiway bubble allin

    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SngNit View Post
    KK isn't even a thought, the question is QQ, which I'd call. Maybe even JJ.
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    Old 06-22-2012, 01:06 PM   #11
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    Re: 3/45 multiway bubble allin

    QQ+ for sure. JJ is hard to know, just with the maths...

    This sngs I think we should play to win... you have a tiny chance to bubble and it's not the end of world if it happens. You also have a reasonable chance to become chip leader. So, I'd call.
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    Old 06-22-2012, 03:03 PM   #12
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    Re: 3/45 multiway bubble allin

    snap call
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