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22 with 5.5xBB in BB 2/180 22 with 5.5xBB in BB 2/180

07-04-2012 , 05:21 PM
Student's hand.

Poker Stars $2.28+$0.22 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t600/t1200 Blinds + t125 - 7 players
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SB: t30454 M = 11.38
Hero (BB): t6531 M = 2.44
UTG: t32703 M = 12.23
UTG+1: t27969 M = 10.46
MP: t15080 M = 5.64
CO: t17780 M = 6.65
BTN: t8556 M = 3.20

Pre Flop: (t2675) Hero is BB with 2 2
UTG raises to t2520, 5 folds Hero ???
07-04-2012 , 08:34 PM
dont let yourself get to 5.5 BB's and shove this all day
07-04-2012 , 08:36 PM
At 5bb im shoving and 3bet shoving any pairs.
07-05-2012 , 12:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vandammm
dont let yourself get to 5.5 BB's and shove this all day
People make aggressive calls in turbo 180s, blind go up, you can lose hands. Silly to say don't get to 5.5xBB in a turbo 180.

Quote:
Originally Posted by AKA47
At 5bb im shoving and 3bet shoving any pairs.
Not 3-bet shoving a small pp in all situations, but here we are getting 1.8-1 to get the money in and big stack may be raising loose.

This is 2+2 heresy, but I actually like a flat call and fold bad flops that are very wet and/or have a lot of high cards. Push or c/r c/c most flops.
07-05-2012 , 01:18 AM
Shove
07-05-2012 , 01:31 AM
22 is an awful hand to stop/ go with. 67s would be a great stop/go hand, however.
07-05-2012 , 03:08 AM
unlikely to get anyone to fold unless they terrible but i would call and shove any flop unless i hit a deuce
07-05-2012 , 09:26 AM
Shoving you have 0 fe 100% of the time. If call/shove will make him fold 1% its good enough for me so I think this might be an interesting idea.
07-05-2012 , 02:05 PM
I was thinking you could call, push most flops, check set, and c/f some flops really good for villain's range. However, I think you are sort of playing in the dark whereas villain will make better decisions as if he has a pair he is ahead.
07-15-2012 , 10:19 PM
It's a really tricky situation. If you go all-in, he is almost certain to call. If you make this play, you are hoping for his hand to be unpaired giving you a small edge. Given your stack, it's a fairly reasonable deal and you may not get better.

But if something tells you that you can do better with another orbit, it is possible to fold this.

It's an abstract decision. Firstly, you have the possibility of actually being dealt a monster hand. There could be a couple of good spots to shove with anything against a medium-low stack when they're in the BB since your stack could take enough of a chunk out of his to place him in major difficulties but won't particularly help him if he wins. You also can factor in players that could go bust and delaying your shove and the amount that your chip stack is reduced before you attempt a double-up is worth it in real cash terms. Perhaps you could even get lucky and at the next BB with everyone knowing you will shove with anything, it will be folded around to you.

Most of the time, probably you are going to take the deal but what I'm saying is don't have anything set in stone.

      
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