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01-24-2014 , 11:35 PM
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hand#1

Villian 1 is nice reg at these stakes with 16/16 stats and is an aggro reg. He just shoved the hand before utg and shoves again. Hero call or fold?

    Poker Stars, $1.36 Buy-in (400/800 blinds, 50 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #22666861

    MP3: 8,274 (10.3 bb)
    CO: 14,978 (18.7 bb)
    BTN: 5,560 (7 bb)
    SB: 13,361 (16.7 bb)
    BB: 3,830 (4.8 bb)
    UTG+2: 7,056 (8.8 bb)
    MP1: 7,100 (8.9 bb)
    Hero (MP2): 7,341 (9.2 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 9 9
    UTG+2 folds, MP1 raises to 7,050 and is all-in, 6 folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: 2,400 pot
    MP1 mucked and won 2,400 (1,550 net)



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    Hand#2:
    Same villian shoves in B v B, trying to take adv. of bubble. Hero has a4s and knows that hero is ahead of V' range but it is a call for nearly entire stack. I think ICIMIZER says just+EV, but just beacuse i know for sure i am ahead i make the call or wait for better spots?

      Poker Stars, $1.36 Buy-in (500/1,000 blinds, 60 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
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      UTG+2: 6,154 (6.2 bb)
      MP1: 11,638 (11.6 bb)
      MP2: 7,020 (7 bb)
      MP3: 18,001 (18 bb)
      CO: 510 (0.5 bb)
      BTN: 5,716 (5.7 bb)
      SB: 7,860 (7.9 bb)
      Hero (BB): 10,601 (10.6 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with 4 A
      6 folds, SB raises to 7,800 and is all-in, Hero calls 6,800

      Flop: (16,080) 5 6 J (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      Turn: (16,080) 4 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: (16,080) 3 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Spoiler:
      Results: 16,080 pot
      Final Board: 5 6 J 4 3
      SB showed J 2 and won 16,080 (8,220 net)
      Hero showed 4 A and lost (-7,860 net)



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      01-25-2014 , 01:33 AM
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      I'm actually pretty happy to call/shove over with both hands.
      01-25-2014 , 09:41 AM
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      Easy call
      Sigh call.
      01-26-2014 , 12:14 PM
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      Gii both
      01-26-2014 , 12:53 PM
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      especially (aggro) regs shove lighter to put pressure on players who tighten it up near the bubble.
      So yea, gii on both hands.
      01-26-2014 , 01:44 PM
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      I don't think you can call in the first hand even if he's shoving like 25%. I'm going with JJ.
      01-27-2014 , 02:45 AM
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      1st one is a lot tougher than the 2nd one imo. I'd never fold 99, but 88 is close and 77 is probably a fold.

      2nd one is like an incredibly easy call. I don't understand what the issue is with calling off a crazy wide shove with a suited ace bvb. You can't pass on those spots and win tournys. K4s is kind of close, but I doubt folding any suited King here is reasonable vs most players.
      01-27-2014 , 07:31 AM
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      Quote:
      Originally Posted by emitnulB
      1st one is a lot tougher than the 2nd one imo. I'd never fold 99, but 88 is close and 77 is probably a fold.

      2nd one is like an incredibly easy call. I don't understand what the issue is with calling off a crazy wide shove with a suited ace bvb. You can't pass on those spots and win tournys. K4s is kind of close, but I doubt folding any suited King here is reasonable vs most players.
      Problem with first hand is the position. V shoves utg, i am next to act. Now V shoved previous hand as well. So what is he shoving utg. Lets says bit wide but not maybe wider than {77+,ATs, KQS. We can exclude QQ+ as he would min raise for value. So while i am ahead of his range the position makes it a tough call. If i was abt average stack and shorty in this position would make the call.imo i prefer to wait for better spots. Do u think he is shoving wider than the range i suggest?

      Hand#2 is an easy call. I snap called.
      01-27-2014 , 02:00 PM
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      Am I missing something in the first hand? It seems like an easy fold to me.
      http://www.icmpoker.com/icmizer/#JsSe
      01-27-2014 , 02:37 PM
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      Quote:
      Originally Posted by omg!donk
      Problem with first hand is the position. V shoves utg, i am next to act. Now V shoved previous hand as well. So what is he shoving utg. Lets says bit wide but not maybe wider than {77+,ATs, KQS. We can exclude QQ+ as he would min raise for value. So while i am ahead of his range the position makes it a tough call. If i was abt average stack and shorty in this position would make the call.imo i prefer to wait for better spots. Do u think he is shoving wider than the range i suggest?
      Yeah it's an easy decision if we are last to act. I think you have the hand figured out pretty well. I think he might shove QQ+ and 44+ too, and maybe a few more aces as well and KQo/KJs. That doesn't effect your decision very much.

      I still think 99 has way too much equity to fold, but I tend to value having a big stack ITM more than most people. -1% edge is pretty huge though, if that's true.
      01-27-2014 , 02:39 PM
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      Hand 1 is a shove/call

      Hand 2 is fine BvB imo
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