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05-16-2015 , 10:04 AM
Hi this came up last night with 13 players left. Put it through ICMizer today and was surprised to find it was - ev.

only 27 hands on villain 33/19
put in 33% limp range and 30% call push range

Really thought this would be the correct play with villain limping.

Any thoughts explanations would be appreciated.

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    Poker Stars, $2.28 Buy-in (1,000/2,000 blinds, 200 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 7 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #36411301

    SB: 17,061 (8.5 bb)
    Hero (BB): 15,846 (7.9 bb)
    MP1: 7,363 (3.7 bb)
    MP2: 29,253 (14.6 bb)
    MP3: 25,555 (12.8 bb)
    CO: 11,112 (5.6 bb)
    BTN: 16,753 (8.4 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 5 A
    2 folds, MP3 calls 2,000, 3 folds, Hero raises to 15,646 and is all-in, MP3 calls 13,646

    Flop: (33,692) 6 2 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    Turn: (33,692) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    River: (33,692) 8 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: 33,692 pot
    Final Board: 6 2 6 6 8
    Hero showed 5 A and lost (-15,846 net)
    MP3 showed 8 K and won 33,692 (17,846 net)



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    05-17-2015 , 01:28 PM
    if I get the #s correctly, you're telling icmizer that he will call your shove with over 90% of the hands he limped with. So you have no FE and a hand that is prob just 50/50 vs his range, with icm calculations I'm not surprised it says -EV.

    Normally I'd think you have much more FE than that, and he's only calling your push with 10% or so, 15-20% if he's much more fishy. So maybe recalculate with that as his call a push range and see what it says.

    (Though clearly from the spoiler what I ranged him on is way off.)
    05-17-2015 , 01:41 PM
    I take a freeplay pre, low-mid Axo does poorly vs limp/call

    also, MP3 should be shoving his entire range for 9bb eff, so often this is a trap
    05-21-2015 , 02:55 PM
    You have 8 bigs with a possibility at picking up a free pot, getting it all day here and I'm happy about it

          
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