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07-09-2012 , 08:36 AM

Xhisorzz1

adept

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 857

Poker Stars, $2.28 Buy-in (125/250 blinds, 25 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #13483172

MP3: 1,600 (6.4 bb)
CO: 2,425 (9.7 bb)
BTN: 3,790 (15.2 bb)
Hero (SB): 1,551 (6.2 bb)
BB: 3,071 (12.3 bb)
UTG+1: 2,347 (9.4 bb)
UTG+2: 7,058 (28.2 bb)
MP1: 2,685 (10.7 bb)
MP2: 9,369 (37.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q

3 folds, MP2 raises to 750, 3 folds, Hero raises to 1,526 and is all-in, BB folds, MP2 calls 776

Flop: (3,527) A

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: (3,527) 7

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: (3,527) Q

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

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with tight stats for villain we fold here right?

07-09-2012 , 09:27 AM

The Observer

centurion

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 195

Yes with your reads its a fold, you have no FE against his raise and most of the time you are behind of his range. I might call with <=4 BB stack

07-09-2012 , 11:27 AM

ChAAnt JC

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,406

Really? Seems pretty nitty folding this here. Bottom of my range probably but still, given his stack size he could easily be opening all broadways, middling aces, pocket pairs. This hand's gonna do really well against that range. Also, what sample size/reads (besides the 3x open) do we have on villain?

07-10-2012 , 08:40 AM

Martypartyy

banned

Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 77

fold

07-10-2012 , 09:46 AM

Xhisorzz1

adept

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 857

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChAAnt JC

no wreal readz, thats why I shoved.
but was thinking we have to lay this down with tight readz.

07-10-2012 , 11:28 AM

Schnech

enthusiast

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 90

If he is super super nitty -> Fold. Otherwise I would shove it here. You just have 6BB and there is already 5.5BB in there. So it's a nobrainer shove.

07-11-2012 , 02:51 AM

MeowImQh

old hand

Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 1,346

villain has a big stack, so he is probably pretty active
all in

07-11-2012 , 08:09 AM

DaRook1e

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 124

Fold IMO unless villain is a bully and runs like 40/35 or sth and main reason we do not have fold equity.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChAAnt JC

Against that specific range we are a bit behind and have ~47% equity. Dead money prolly makes it call but I would not risk my stack. It's nothing more than gamble which eliminates our edge (if we assume we have any at all) And yeah, or stack is 6bb but we are SM and can wait a whole orbit before we move in. And better we are first even with a worse hand like T7s or A2o.

07-12-2012 , 05:19 AM

Glitlr

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 4,682

I think you should fold, however if you want to play the hand call and shove flop because you are first to act. This play is much better than a shove.

07-12-2012 , 06:32 AM

#10

danjaylittler

stranger

Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 11

the 3X'ing seems an odd play from the villain in question.
I'd feel like this is a strong hand I'm against and would want to lay it down.

07-12-2012 , 09:02 AM

#11

dcdoorknob

grinder

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 537

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schnech

If he is super super nitty -> Fold. Otherwise I would shove it here. You just have 6BB and there is already 5.5BB in there. So it's a nobrainer shove.

This.

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