Should i just check fold the turn here? I shoved the turn because i thought he could be calling with a lots of AJ/AT and sometimes he can even call A8/A7 if he is extra fishy so i get value from them. What are your thoughts what should i do on the turn?
player was a calling station playing 32/14

bet flop bigger...

turn is nasty.... at least give him a chance to bluff

nahh, well played. Ugly that board ran out this way. Would prolly ch/shove turn.

More on flop, otherwise WP.

I would play it the same way. unlucky.

Are we supposed to raise more pre ?

Dumb question which is tickling me : jamming this kind of flops with KK, is it good ?
Dumb people would be snap calling you with their draw or TP thinking you want to shotgun the pot with AQ/AK ?

You can make it some weird number (4132 or something) in order to make it look less like a minraise, but a simpel minraise is fine.

No, you have 2x the pot, just bet (bigger than what OP bet though), villain might (semi)bluffshove, call with their draw and not luckbox ott, or shove with TP, no need to shove.

Is shove pre is an option here ? 17bb is to shallow to play post flop i believe.
Regarding pre flop raise, if your objective is to play post flop and do not give out your hand strenght, standard raise is better against 2.12345x raise and vica versa. The reason for that is that such raises will give away info to villains that you have something strong. Better player will pick it up quickly.

no, and playing w 17bb postflop is perfectly possiblewhy would you only be able to do that with a strong hand?

Thanks for the answer Jark. I found the 2.5 180 so fishy that these kind of shoves are often called by terrible hands (ie tired player with TPBad Kicker or even second pair).

I think the only time where you can shove pre vndLaZz is when you already shoved quite often before. Readless or without having created the image that suits this move, you would lose equity.