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05-13-2012, 03:30 PM
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newbie
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 44
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$2.5 180man some hands
Hey guys, I just started to grind these tournaments again and I really need some advice on several hands. Here they are
1.Blinds : 300/600 - Ante 50.0
9 players
[SB] JontyCD (12022)
[BB] schelluinen (9680)
[1] V1p13 (11858)
[2] Radik731 (1950)
[3] valkyros (8055)
[4] Fin_96rus (9060)
[5] jokazltu (5620)
[6] mirelinho (3462)
[But] Chevyvanas (2081)
jokazltu 6  5 Initial Pot: 1350
V1p13 folds
Radik731 folds
valkyros folds
Fin_96rus folds
jokazltu ????
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2Blinds : 125/250 - Ante 25.0
9 players
[SB] BAFA1 (4570)
[BB] Sam237777 (3515)
[1] shogun412 (6030)
[2] shahim12 (5442)
[3] Mané Buião (1600)
[4] KronoPP (2550)
[5] jokazltu (1440)
[6] AppelMoesje (2805)
[But] aladin375 (2280)
jokazltu 8  6 Initial Pot: 600
shogun412 folds
shahim12 folds
Mané Buião folds
KronoPP folds
jokazltu ???
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05-14-2012, 04:13 AM
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#2
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newbie
Join Date: May 2012
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Re: $2.5 180man some hands
guys anyone?
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05-14-2012, 05:21 AM
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#3
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old hand
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: playing with kids
Posts: 1,925
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Re: $2.5 180man some hands
1/ fold cause you are not super desperate and the short stacks are too short, they are calling super wide and you'll loose a lots of showdowns. don't forget that pushbot strategy is based on the fact that people fold to your shoves a lot. there fore, you should push against people who have more or less the same/ twice your stack
2 / push, you are so short, almost any 2
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05-14-2012, 06:00 AM
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#4
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newbie
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 44
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Re: $2.5 180man some hands
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Originally Posted by bibiscus
1/ fold cause you are not super desperate and the short stacks are too short, they are calling super wide and you'll loose a lots of showdowns. don't forget that pushbot strategy is based on the fact that people fold to your shoves a lot. there fore, you should push against people who have more or less the same/ twice your stack
2 / push, you are so short, almost any 2
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thanks mate for the answers! what if on the first hand there wouldn't be any shorstack (avrg stack 10bb)? Should i shove then?
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05-14-2012, 06:41 AM
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old hand
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: playing with kids
Posts: 1,925
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Re: $2.5 180man some hands
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Originally Posted by jokazltu
thanks mate for the answers! what if on the first hand there wouldn't be any shorstack (avrg stack 10bb)? Should i shove then?
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I would shove almost 100% from button
your a little early still on position I think, depends on reads mostly
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05-14-2012, 07:57 AM
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newbie
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 44
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Re: $2.5 180man some hands
Should I shove this one? MP1 is kinda fish player, CO is unknow.
MP1: 7,399 (24.7 bb)
MP2: 7,642 (25.5 bb)
MP3: 1,970 (6.6 bb)
CO: 1,618 (5.4 bb)
Hero (BTN): 2,215 (7.4 bb)
SB: 2,030 (6.8 bb)
BB: 4,970 (16.6 bb)
UTG+1: 3,230 (10.8 bb)
UTG+2: 4,430 (14.8 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q  A 
2 folds, MP1 raises to 1,500, 2 folds, CO raises to 1,593 and is all-in, Hero ????
2. blinds 150/300
Seat 1: jokazltu (6037 in chips)
Seat 2: GP222 (4889 in chips)
Seat 4: Handbook10 (6475 in chips)
Seat 5: Dalibor1 (1305 in chips)
Seat 6: icehol (1987 in chips)
Seat 7: ribiiglaz (9726 in chips)
Seat 8: dervic535 (2235 in chips)
Seat 9: shanno66 (3179 in chips)
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jokazltu [Qd Ah]
Handbook10: folds
Dalibor1: folds
icehol: folds
ribiiglaz: raises 600 to 900
dervic535: folds
shanno66: folds
jokazltu: ???
Last edited by jokazltu; 05-14-2012 at 08:14 AM.
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05-14-2012, 09:03 AM
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#7
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journeyman
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 326
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Re: $2.5 180man some hands
I think AQ is a shove there because you say MP1 is a fish so will raise call of with worse aces like AJ, and a10-8 for example and the CO is so short that he could be pushing any two that flop well and his is looking to build a stack for example 98s KQ,QJ and so on what do you think about what i suggested?
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05-14-2012, 09:14 AM
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#8
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newbie
Join Date: May 2012
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Re: $2.5 180man some hands
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Originally Posted by bdel94
I think AQ is a shove there because you say MP1 is a fish so will raise call of with worse aces like AJ, and a10-8 for example and the CO is so short that he could be pushing any two that flop well and his is looking to build a stack for example 98s KQ,QJ and so on what do you think about what i suggested?
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Yea I agree with that part that I beat MP1 range and that call is profitable against him, but what about cutoff? Even hes so short he wont call here with atc, because he have some fold equity and can wait for another spot. What about the second hand?
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05-14-2012, 04:24 PM
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adept
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 774
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Re: $2.5 180man some hands
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Originally Posted by jokazltu
Should I shove this one? MP1 is kinda fish player, CO is unknow.
MP1: 7,399 (24.7 bb)
MP2: 7,642 (25.5 bb)
MP3: 1,970 (6.6 bb)
CO: 1,618 (5.4 bb)
Hero (BTN): 2,215 (7.4 bb)
SB: 2,030 (6.8 bb)
BB: 4,970 (16.6 bb)
UTG+1: 3,230 (10.8 bb)
UTG+2: 4,430 (14.8 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q  A 
2 folds, MP1 raises to 1,500, 2 folds, CO raises to 1,593 and is all-in, Hero ????
2. blinds 150/300
Seat 1: jokazltu (6037 in chips)
Seat 2: GP222 (4889 in chips)
Seat 4: Handbook10 (6475 in chips)
Seat 5: Dalibor1 (1305 in chips)
Seat 6: icehol (1987 in chips)
Seat 7: ribiiglaz (9726 in chips)
Seat 8: dervic535 (2235 in chips)
Seat 9: shanno66 (3179 in chips)
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to jokazltu [Qd Ah]
Handbook10: folds
Dalibor1: folds
icehol: folds
ribiiglaz: raises 600 to 900
dervic535: folds
shanno66: folds
jokazltu: ???
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shove
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05-15-2012, 07:23 AM
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newbie
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 44
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Re: $2.5 180man some hands
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Originally Posted by Xhisorzz1
shove
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which one? 1st, 2nd or both hands?
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05-15-2012, 08:16 PM
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adept
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 757
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Re: $2.5 180man some hands
Both.
First hand, the guy is calling off his stack wide from CO and even then if you shove and MP1 folds you are getting easily good enough odds against his range if you think he isn't calling with any two.
Second hand, AQ v a CO open? Shove every single time given stack sizes.
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05-16-2012, 11:18 AM
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centurion
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 148
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Re: $2.5 180man some hands
65s in the first hand is a shove. Yes, there are short stacks behind us, but they have to be calling very wide for shoving not to be correct.
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05-16-2012, 11:24 AM
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centurion
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 151
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Re: $2.5 180man some hands
1) fold. pot 2.3to1, 3 players after you. if you standard 3bb, shortstack can push. bad idea.
2) fold. push with next good hand.
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05-16-2012, 12:43 PM
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old hand
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: London, UK
Posts: 1,313
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Re: $2.5 180man some hands
Quote:
Originally Posted by iloveMarina
1) fold. pot 2.3to1, 3 players after you. if you standard 3bb, shortstack can push. bad idea.
2) fold. push with next good hand.
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Please ignore this.
Shove, shove and shove. 65s is so much better than 32o.
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05-16-2012, 12:59 PM
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centurion
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 186
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Re: $2.5 180man some hands
Birkin, can you please explain why shove?
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