Can we find fold here? Or it is always shove? I hate when there are so many players left to act behind me.


PokerStars - 2500/5000 Ante 375 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (UTG+1): 15.58 BB
MP: 50.25 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
MP+1: 48.19 BB (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 18.75, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 32)
MP+2: 32.68 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
CO: 33.55 BB (VPIP: 18.75, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 32)
BTN: 10.52 BB (VPIP: 15.63, PFR: 12.90, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 32)
SB: 77.46 BB (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 42.86, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 14)
BB: 72.73 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
UTG: 12.39 BB (VPIP: 12.90, PFR: 13.79, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 32)

9 players post ante of 0.08 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.18 BB) Hero has 8 8

fold, Hero raises to 15.51 BB and is all-in, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 14.51 BB

Flop: (32.19 BB, 2 players) 3 K 4

Turn: (32.19 BB, 2 players) 6

River: (32.19 BB, 2 players) 9

BB shows T T (One Pair, Tens)
(Pre 82%, Flop 92%, Turn 95%)
Hero shows 8 8 (One Pair, Eights)
(Pre 18%, Flop 8%, Turn 5%)
BB wins 32.19 BB

Given that there are no meaningful ICM considerations it is a shove

Sux but it's a correct shove there.

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fine ul

yeah it's a shove.

Shoving roughly 10%-/+ and 88 is included.

I would tend to shove but it's actually pretty marginal given the lowish antes - Jennifear gives 88 as bottom of shoving range for 10% antes and these are 7.5%

I am very sceptical about this just because there are so many players behind me.
8 in this spot,
I didnt know/think about ante sizes, it does really matter. Tnx!

i think i'd shove as well, but i looked at my old chats to make sure and it says TT+ in this situation .... seeing as everyone is saying they would shove, maybe my old chart is wrong, hehe