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Old 05-25-2012, 06:51 AM   #1
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2.5$ 180 man bvb call or fold?

Final table. V is unknown, call or fold? What is your range for calling here?


    Poker Stars, $2.28 Buy-in (2,000/4,000 blinds, 400 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
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    Hero (BB): 62,085 (15.5 bb)
    UTG: 23,834 (6 bb)
    MP: 35,062 (8.8 bb)
    CO: 85,705 (21.4 bb)
    BTN: 27,787 (6.9 bb)
    SB: 35,527 (8.9 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BB with 4 A
    4 folds, SB raises to 35,127 and is all-in,

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    Old 05-25-2012, 10:21 AM   #2
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    Re: 2.5$ 180 man bvb call or fold?

    against unknown villain I fold here. To make it profitable ICM wise villain has to shove around 65% hand. I am not sure about a random is shoving 65% here.
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    Old 05-25-2012, 11:03 AM   #3
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    Re: 2.5$ 180 man bvb call or fold?

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    against unknown villain I fold here. To make it profitable ICM wise villain has to shove around 65% hand. I am not sure about a random is shoving 65% here.
    Not trying to be argumentative, but do you really think even stone cold fish don't know about jamming into the shortie BVB with most/whole of range?

    while I agree with your critique i wonder if we are spewing here by folding
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    Old 05-25-2012, 11:08 AM   #4
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    Re: 2.5$ 180 man bvb call or fold?

    You are 2/6, no need to call there and risk that.

    Calling range for me here is AJ+ 77+.
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    Old 05-25-2012, 11:16 AM   #5
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    Re: 2.5$ 180 man bvb call or fold?

    ugh, misread stacks, I had us as bb with <10bb and villain as 15.5bb - ignore previous post
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    Old 05-25-2012, 11:24 AM   #6
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    Re: 2.5$ 180 man bvb call or fold?

    i call
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    Old 05-25-2012, 12:15 PM   #7
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    Re: 2.5$ 180 man bvb call or fold?

    It depends on SB shoving range. In most cases its a fold unless you can put V on range which you have 65% equity against.
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    Old 05-25-2012, 04:10 PM   #8
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    Re: 2.5$ 180 man bvb call or fold?

    fold against most randoms, unless he seems to be playing decently and taking spots like these. Obviously A4o has very poor equity if he is not jamming wide there, so although the call is almost always +cev, even if villain is tight, your equity in the tournament is hurt by making a marginal call.
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    Old 05-26-2012, 03:39 AM   #9
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    Re: 2.5$ 180 man bvb call or fold?

    If ur unsure, fold. Ez game. Calling and being wrong is terribad.
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