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05-25-2012 , 06:51 AM

Gatavas19

grinder

Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 401

Final table. V is unknown, call or fold? What is your range for calling here?

Poker Stars, $2.28 Buy-in (2,000/4,000 blinds, 400 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #12973842

Hero (BB): 62,085 (15.5 bb)
UTG: 23,834 (6 bb)
MP: 35,062 (8.8 bb)
CO: 85,705 (21.4 bb)
BTN: 27,787 (6.9 bb)
SB: 35,527 (8.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4

4 folds, SB raises to 35,127 and is all-in,

05-25-2012 , 10:21 AM

sayakmitra

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 635

against unknown villain I fold here. To make it profitable ICM wise villain has to shove around 65% hand. I am not sure about a random is shoving 65% here.

05-25-2012 , 11:03 AM

Chindo_Nights

adept

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 994

Quote:

Originally Posted by sayakmitra

against unknown villain I fold here. To make it profitable ICM wise villain has to shove around 65% hand. I am not sure about a random is shoving 65% here.

Not trying to be argumentative, but do you really think even stone cold fish don't know about jamming into the shortie BVB with most/whole of range?

while I agree with your critique i wonder if we are spewing here by folding

05-25-2012 , 11:08 AM

Lio Nunez

centurion

Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 157

You are 2/6, no need to call there and risk that.

Calling range for me here is AJ+ 77+.

05-25-2012 , 11:16 AM

Chindo_Nights

adept

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 994

ugh, misread stacks, I had us as bb with <10bb and villain as 15.5bb - ignore previous post

05-25-2012 , 11:24 AM

Fanov

journeyman

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 357

i call

05-25-2012 , 12:15 PM

weep0ker

stranger

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 4

It depends on SB shoving range. In most cases its a fold unless you can put V on range which you have 65% equity against.

05-25-2012 , 04:10 PM

hardcoreUFO

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 16,281

fold against most randoms, unless he seems to be playing decently and taking spots like these. Obviously A4o has very poor equity if he is not jamming wide there, so although the call is almost always +cev, even if villain is tight, your equity in the tournament is hurt by making a marginal call.

05-26-2012 , 03:39 AM

mckrogh

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 6,495

If ur unsure, fold. Ez game. Calling and being wrong is terribad.

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