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2,5$ 180 man AQovs postflop shove 2,5$ 180 man AQovs postflop shove

02-02-2016 , 10:24 AM
Hi guys..i want to see together this hand.i dont know almost nothing about villain because i had ony 5 hands...so what do you believe..villain keeps flush draw the most times when he shoves..so what you believe?
BB: 1,441 (48 bb)
UTG+2: 3,816 (127.2 bb)
MP1: 1,151 (38.4 bb)
Hero (MP2): 1,545 (51.5 bb)
MP3: 738 (24.6 bb)
CO: 2,914 (97.1 bb)
BTN: 1,623 (54.1 bb)
SB: 1,543 (51.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q A
UTG+2 calls 30, MP1 folds, Hero raises to 120, 2 folds, BTN calls 120, 2 folds, UTG+2 calls 90

Flop: (437) 4 A K (3 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets 149, BTN raises to 1,499 and is all-in, UTG+2 folds, HERO?
02-02-2016 , 10:56 PM
I'd call off here with the over shove, I'd be more weary of a smaller 3bet then the shove
02-03-2016 , 06:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by oldskool87
I'd call off here with the over shove, I'd be more weary of a smaller 3bet then the shove
my friend i really dont understand you
02-03-2016 , 08:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by lilantas
my friend i really dont understand you
He would call to shove becouse it represents less strenght as non-allin 3bet
02-03-2016 , 10:33 PM
Yeah exactly im not overly worried about an all-in shove it doesn't represent strength to me
02-04-2016 , 06:34 AM
Yes this looks like A8 w/ 8c or KQ w/ Qc.
As oldskool said, call and feel good about it.
02-04-2016 , 07:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChipsNcrisps
Yes this looks like A8 w/ 8c or KQ w/ Qc.
As oldskool said, call and feel good about it.
lol :P
02-04-2016 , 07:57 AM
oh thank you guys.. i will post the result have a great time and gl gl gl gl all of you
02-04-2016 , 07:58 AM
the result guys


    Poker Stars, $2.28 Buy-in (15/30 blinds, 4 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37237813

    BB: 1,441 (48 bb)
    UTG+2: 3,816 (127.2 bb)
    MP1: 1,151 (38.4 bb)
    Hero (MP2): 1,545 (51.5 bb)
    MP3: 738 (24.6 bb)
    CO: 2,914 (97.1 bb)
    BTN: 1,623 (54.1 bb)
    SB: 1,543 (51.4 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q A
    UTG+2 calls 30, MP1 folds, Hero raises to 120, 2 folds, BTN calls 120, 2 folds, UTG+2 calls 90

    Flop: (437) 4 A K (3 players)
    UTG+2 checks, Hero bets 149, BTN raises to 1,499 and is all-in, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls 1,272 and is all-in

    Turn: (3,279) 5 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
    River: (3,279) 3 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: 3,279 pot
    Final Board: 4 A K 5 3
    UTG+2 mucked and lost (-124 net)
    Hero showed Q A and lost (-1,545 net)
    BTN showed 4 A and won 3,279 (1,734 net)



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    02-04-2016 , 01:44 PM
    Well he will shove with worse Aces/flush draws too, so i still say call, even after i saw the result
    02-04-2016 , 02:32 PM
    Im surprised evyone was so ready to call here. I dont think im being results biased but always hard to say when you have seen the result and indeed villain could very well have worse hands weaker pairs / combi drawers. but our hand is very unlikely to improve and may indeed be crushed. Flopped fluses arent so common at higher BI but lower down the recreationall players overvalue suitedness preflop. Basically im saying when we are ahead he will still have loads of equity vs us. In higher BI i would fold here dont play $2.50 so yeah maybe it is a call but surely this is pretty tight. i mean are villains really ever shoving here with worse AX no club, im thinking not.
    so yeah could be a call vs an unknown in that player pool but can we really ever "feel good about it". in higher BI i would fold this for sure vs an unknown as we have a few hands in our range that are strong enougth to call.
    02-05-2016 , 06:34 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by URagnatha
    Im surprised evyone was so ready to call here. I dont think im being results biased but always hard to say when you have seen the result and indeed villain could very well have worse hands weaker pairs / combi drawers. but our hand is very unlikely to improve and may indeed be crushed. Flopped fluses arent so common at higher BI but lower down the recreationall players overvalue suitedness preflop. Basically im saying when we are ahead he will still have loads of equity vs us. In higher BI i would fold here dont play $2.50 so yeah maybe it is a call but surely this is pretty tight. i mean are villains really ever shoving here with worse AX no club, im thinking not.
    so yeah could be a call vs an unknown in that player pool but can we really ever "feel good about it". in higher BI i would fold this for sure vs an unknown as we have a few hands in our range that are strong enougth to call.
    I see your point, and spose 50BB deep this is worse call than i initially thought.
    02-05-2016 , 10:08 AM
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by URagnatha
    Im surprised evyone was so ready to call here. I dont think im being results biased but always hard to say when you have seen the result and indeed villain could very well have worse hands weaker pairs / combi drawers. but our hand is very unlikely to improve and may indeed be crushed. Flopped fluses arent so common at higher BI but lower down the recreationall players overvalue suitedness preflop. Basically im saying when we are ahead he will still have loads of equity vs us. In higher BI i would fold here dont play $2.50 so yeah maybe it is a call but surely this is pretty tight. i mean are villains really ever shoving here with worse AX no club, im thinking not.
    so yeah could be a call vs an unknown in that player pool but can we really ever "feel good about it". in higher BI i would fold this for sure vs an unknown as we have a few hands in our range that are strong enougth to call.
    you have right uragnatha nice post

          
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