how to play these optimally?
does it make sense to play the JJ if we only get about 50-55 cev?
villain 5/5 20 hands

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NL Holdem $100(BB) Replayer
SB ($1,535)
BB ($3,830)
UTG ($1,380)
UTG+1 ($3,165)
Hero ($1,425)
MP1 ($2,940)
MP2 ($1,555)
CO ($875)
BTN ($2,725)

Dealt to Hero J J

UTG raises to $200, fold, Hero calls $200, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold

FLOP ($550) T 9 6

UTG bets $400, Hero raises to $1,225 (AI), UTG calls $780 (AI)

flop shove is pretty bad since i dont beat anything.



how we play this postflop with this stack7 pot ratio?

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NL Holdem $50(BB) Replayer
Hero ($1,333)
BB ($1,460)
UTG ($990)
UTG+1 ($1,175)
UTG+2 ($2,545)
MP1 ($1,730)
MP2 ($1,445)
CO ($1,430)
BTN ($2,775)

Dealt to Hero Q A

UTG calls $50, fold, UTG+2 calls $50, MP1 calls $50, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $250, fold, UTG calls $200, UTG+2 calls $200, fold

FLOP ($850) 7 K 5

Hero bets ?

Why do you call with JJ? It's going to suck if flop brings any card higher than J. It's a clear shove imo, with these stacks you shouldn't be calling any hands really except sometimes AA and KK perhaps, but mostly shove those too.

2nd hand you could consider shoving this hand preflop, but I'd not cbet the flop because 2 players called and it's likely they have something on this flop that they aren't willing to let go of at least to one barrel.

I'd shove both pre.

^ +1.

shove all day long.

just jam both, too shallow to do anything else

Shove both, I'd actually rather limp Hand 2 then raise fwiw.
Hand 1 def shove pre. If he is too tight, then fold (unlikely).

As played shoving flop is fine, "flop shove is pretty bad since i dont beat anything." that isn't true although I know what you mean. You not beating anything might be true (or not, it's not my point) but if you don't beat anything it doesn't necessarily mean shoving isn't the correct play.

shove first limp 2nd.

+1

Shove it, Love it